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Re: Workhouse Death
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 15 March 12 21:32 GMT (UK) »
you have the right marriage there millie but it is a bad transcription. it says albert wood brecken if you have a good look at it.
i take it that florence is the only child but cannot find her after her birth.
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 15 March 12 21:58 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all so very much for responding to my post. Yes, that is the correct marriage.

Lily and Albert had 2 daughters one being my 2x great grandmother, Kate born in 1889. They had another daughter Florence in 1892. Kate was raised by another family and I believe she was boarded out and eventually "adopted" by the family she lived with. I had suspicion that Lily was in the workhouse but couldn't find anything to prove it until I got the information from her burial record which gave an address of The Workhouse.

When Kate was born the address given on her birth certificate was 56 Jermyn Road which was Lily's mother's address. On the 1891 census there is no sign of Lily living with her mother at that address. I realize it was 2 years after Kate's birth. On Florence's birth certificate in 1892 the same address was given, but it seems she was baptized in the workhouse. 

When Lily died in 1899 it states that she was the widow of Albert Breckin-cloth finisher. An address of 2 High Street is given on her death certificate but the burial certificate gives the address of the workhouse. If I could find either one of them in 1891 it would certainly help, but I can't find them.

I believe that Florence was probably boarded out as well and have ordered research for both girls at the West Yorkshire Archives to find out. There is no death record that I can find for Albert between Florence's birth (if he really is the father as the certificate states) and 1899 the year of Lily's death as she is listed as his widow.

Albert is a mystery! There is an Alfred W Brackin - listed in 1891 who is a cloth finisher and I suspect this may be him. But where Lily is I don't think I will ever know.

Once again, thank you for all of the responses!

Tamara
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Re: Workhouse Death
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 15 March 12 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Bit of a sad story then.  I saw the one for Alfred W as well hmmm.

I can see Kate in 1891 lodger aged 1 with a family called Blackburn.  72 Westfield Rd Leeds it looks like.
Same address in 1901 and she is adopted daughter.
Still with them in 1911 boarder address 2 Osbourne View Leeds but you may already have this.

So Albert dies between 1892 and 1899.
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 15 March 12 22:28 GMT (UK) »
He should have died in between those years, but I don't know if he really did. Maybe Lily told them she was a widow when he actually left her? I thought that maybe he emigrated but can't find him anywhere else either.
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 15 March 12 22:44 GMT (UK) »
I can't see a death for him. 

Yes that is a possibility he had left her and she said she was a widow.  It's a puzzle where they all were.  The only one we have in 1891 for sure is Kate and she isn't with her mother or father yet they had another daughter after that.  Is a bit odd.
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Re: Workhouse Death
« Reply #14 on: Friday 16 March 12 08:39 GMT (UK) »
No sign of anything else yet but will keep looking.
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Re: Workhouse Death
« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 March 12 10:33 GMT (UK) »



No sign of anything else yet but will keep looking.

If it's any consolation to Tamara I think we're all looking - but like you, I can't find anything either ?

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« Reply #16 on: Friday 16 March 12 12:06 GMT (UK) »
Probably a coincidence but there is a Blackburn family next to the Carrolls (Lilly and her mother) on the 1881 census.   

Is Lillys mother Margaret around in 1891?  I can't see her.
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« Reply #17 on: Friday 16 March 12 12:54 GMT (UK) »
I can't thank each one of you enough for your assistance with this!

Lily's mother (Margaret) married a man by the name of Alfred Lee in 1891.

I know that Lily was raised by Thomas Blackburn and his family from the time she was about a year old right up until the time she married my 2x great grandfather. I have all the Blackburn info traced. I have traced Lily's family as well as Albert's. Although there are a few unanswered questions there as well, it's nothing that would lead me to them in 1891. I am hoping there is something in the boarding out records that will be helpful but it's going to take about 6 weeks before I receive anything if there is anything to receive!

Albert is my biggest brickwall and maybe someday I will find him or maybe I won't!

Thank you again,
Tamara
RILEY, BRECKON/BRECKIN, BLACKBURN

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