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Re: Charing baptism Look up Walker COMPLETED
« Reply #9 on: Friday 09 March 12 16:20 GMT (UK) »
As he is John Taylor Walker, its most likely that Taylor was in fact his fathers surname as you often find this on illegitimate births. 
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« Reply #10 on: Friday 09 March 12 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi patrish,

That would fit in with my theory that these are John's parents:

John Taylor of Borden bach (60) & Mary Walker of the s sp. (40). 01 Jan 1822.
Book: Volume 35 Collection: Kent, Surrey, London: - Canterbury Marriage Licences, 1810-1837 184.


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« Reply #11 on: Friday 09 March 12 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Have you seen the tithe apportionments for Borden?

http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Maps/BOR/02.htm

Both John TAYLOR & John Taylor WALKER are mentioned.
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 10 March 12 16:36 GMT (UK) »
No, I hadn't seen them Bearkat, thanks very much for the link.


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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 30 August 12 10:17 BST (UK) »
Hi people..

John Taylor Walker born in Bordern Ken in about 1805 is my great great great grandfather I believe! I have a lot of census records if you want them....

Are any of you related to him??


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« Reply #14 on: Friday 31 August 12 12:01 BST (UK) »
Are you aware that your ancestor  Richard Merchant Walker is the son of Caroline [Taylor] Walker, and not her brother Reuben, as you have postulated elsewhere?

Caroline never married. Reuben married Elizabeth Cooper 20/05/1877  Clapham Park St James, as a bachelor and they had at least two children, William born 1879 in Bobbing, Kent and Jane in 1881 in Borden, before Reuben's death in 1886.

Also, 'James' Walker 1833 on your tree is actually Jane Taylor Walker. In 1851 Jane Taylor Walker, unmarried Grandaughter,  house servant,is living in the household of Richard Sharp, thatcher, born c1779 Borden kent, and Fanny, schoolmistress, born c1783 Stockbury kent, the parents of Jane's mother, Mary Ann Sharp, wife of John Taylor Walker.

(Richard Sharp/Sharpe and Fanny Greensted were married 8th Dec 1806 at Borden, They had several children, including Mary Ann, baptised 18th Dec 1808 at Borden)

John Taylor Walker and Mary Ann Sharpe were married 2nd Jun 1832 at  Borden .

Jane Taylor Walker later returned to live in Chesnut St  Borden in various censuses as 'widowed' Jane Bassett, often living with sisters Mary Ann or Emily, and in 1881 with her  married brother Reuben but I cannot find a record of her marriage.

Jane's daughter, also known as Jane Bassett, is living with her grandparents John Taylor Walker and Mary Ann nee Sharpe in  census 1871, along with her cousin [Richard] Merchant Walker.

Are you also aware that Richard Merchant Walker's two wives were sisters, both being daughters of Robert Gray/Grey and his wife Ann Osborne.? Eveline Maud Daisy Grey/Gray  is recorded as 'Daisy' in census material with her parents in 1881/91which made her hard to find at first, but the dates fit and she has siblings in common with Alice Grey/Gray who appears in census 1861/71 also with the same parents Robert and Ann. Eveline's birth cert also confirms her parents were Robert and Ann.

Richard Merchant Walker and Alice Grey's daughter Alice Caroline Walker c1882-12/03/1932 married Richard Henry/Harry Cain  2 May 1905 Fulham All Saints and had several children.

You know of Richard and Eveline's descendants already I believe.

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« Reply #15 on: Friday 31 August 12 22:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Kucinta,

Yep, I ordered Richard's birth certificate a while ago and found out that info about Caroline.

I think originally I did believe Reuben may have been Richard's father - and now I just logged back into the ancestry website and see that info is still on there so that is probably where you found this out?!

I was wondering how you got that info or if you had me confused with someone else but you were right on the money! I'll correct that tree on ancestry over the weekend if I get time... I should have a fair few updates to that.

I did guess that the two Gray's were sisters... I'll try and get some time together to gather the info.

Funny how things work out - I grew up in Gravesend, not far from where my great-grandmother would have grown up!

Anyway.... will update the tree shortly and let you know!

Thanks for the reply




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« Reply #16 on: Sunday 02 September 12 00:38 BST (UK) »
Hey Kucinta - thanks for the great information - got back a generation further thanks to that, plus filled in a few more holes.

I've uploaded the latest tree to ancestry.com so feel free to look and correct any errors! I have lots of other siblings there for the Gray sisters... I must have got some census records last year.

Anyway, will try and continue to fill in any holes!

So do you fit in down the Grey line somewhere?!

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« Reply #17 on: Sunday 02 September 12 20:25 BST (UK) »
No, a distant relative of mine via his paternal line is a grandson of Richard Merchant Walker by both his mothers, I helped him work on both lines.

Can't seem to access your tree on Ancestry to look at the updates.