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Re: william Hauxwell-Marg.Craggs christenings
« Reply #9 on: Friday 27 April 12 00:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks Tilly, I love the map, new to me....I am not sure how to figure out whether Chris. or William  is the father, genealogy is not easy, as we all know....Rob 

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 27 April 12 08:20 BST (UK) »


You could also use Genuki to work out the distances by clicking on the the 'Nearby Places' located at the top of this page. By altering the miles you can widen the radius to search for the smaller villages.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Spennithorne/index.html

Sometimes it pays to go with your instinct and something tells me because of the proximity, it was the Bedale baptism - with father William of Crakehall. I only wish I could help you prove it though. People seemed to follow a 'route'  and in my personal experience this was the most common.

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Re: william Hauxwell-Marg.Craggs christenings
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 May 12 18:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Rob, I've found a baptism for a Margaret CRAGGS in familysearch.org.  05 May 1745 at Appleton-le-Street (which is near Malton in North Yorkshire and quite a long way from Spennithorne).  The father was Richard Craggs.  It's not out of the question that this is the right person.  The family, or just she, could have moved to Spennithorne and at her marriage to William Hauxwell she was 'of this parish'.  I'll see if I can find any connections and let you know.  I went to Northallerton Records Office for the day a couple of weeks ago but most of the information I got was for the 1800s, partly because I'm working backwards but also some of the early records are very difficult to read (on microfilm) or illegible.  As regards William Hauxwell's roots, Well or Bedale, I think it may be impossible to solve this.  There are an awful lot of Hauxwells in the area and many of them are called Christopher or William.  I plan to return to Northallerton before long and will let you know if I find anything then or in the meantime.  By the way, as you are in Australia are you related to Margaret Hauxwell of Hartlepool?  She emigrated to the Ballarat gold fields in the 1870s with her 2nd husband Robert Wright. 

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Re: william Hauxwell-Marg.Craggs christenings
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 03 May 12 02:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the help...William (1843) married Spennithorne, which I think takes in Harmby & Bellerby, what reg. district would Well and Crakehall be in 1740 up...There was a burial of William 3-9-1771 Bedale, no age, would anyone  be able to tell the age  of this William, I am thinking he might be lst child of William & Marg. as they usually  name the lst child after the father's father
My John  Hauxwell(1830 Bellerby )  migrated to WA, Aust. in 1875 and his wife Eliz. and 4 children drowned on their way to Sa. 1876
John joined his step-bro. Joseph (from Joseph 1783) in SA.The Joseph in SA would be Louisa's B12's ancestor...Margaret's brother I think.....Rob 


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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 08 May 12 10:47 BST (UK) »
Hi, the registration districts are a bit tricky as they all changed in 1837 and I haven't been able to find what they comprised before that.  Genuki gives a breakdown of parishes from 1837 www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/leyburn.html.  However Crakehall would have been Spennithorne I think.  Well could have been Bedale or Ripon. Well is covered by the Ripon Historical Society and Family History Group as well as by the Cleveland FHS.   They may be able to tell you.
Sometimes, but not always, the parish registers give the age at burial.  Re your John Hauxwell, was he Joseph's son with Phoebe Barker, his second wife?

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Re: william Hauxwell-Marg.Craggs christenings
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 12 May 12 10:34 BST (UK) »



William (1843) married Spennithorne, which I think takes in Harmby & Bellerby, what reg. district would Well and Crakehall be in 1740 up...

Hi, the registration districts are a bit tricky as they all changed in 1837 and I haven't been able to find what they comprised before that.  Genuki gives a breakdown of parishes from 1837 www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/leyburn.html.  However Crakehall would have been Spennithorne I think.  Well could have been Bedale or Ripon. Well is covered by the Ripon Historical Society and Family History Group as well as by the Cleveland FHS.   They may be able to tell you.

Hello again,

Civil registration didn't begin until 1837. From that date Bedale came under the district of Northallerton, whereas Well was in the district of Ripon. The registration district of Bedale was created two years later in 1839 and included village's taken from the already existing district's of Northallerton and Ripon. Well was included in the 1839 changeover and moved from Ripon to the newly formed Bedale registration district.

During this timescale and before, Crakehall was in the parish of Bedale. Crakehall church wasn't built until 1839/1840, only serving as a chapelry, not becoming a parish in its own right until 1861. Before this date all parochial rights remained with the Rector of Bedale. My understanding is, Crakehall parish births, marriages and burials were recorded with Bedale until 1842.

Clear as mud, but hopefully should help explain it better. :)

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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 12 May 12 12:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks Pels, that is helpful.  You were much clearer in your explanation than me! I meant to say that prior to 1837 there were no registration districts as such, only parishes which centred around the local church and where, if you're lucky, you might find the records of bmbs in the parish records.  So I guess that knowing when churches were built is quite helpful in working out where someone might have been baptised etc.  I think I've got that right?  Is there an easy way of finding out which parish a particular village belonged to prior to 1837?
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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 12 May 12 14:03 BST (UK) »




By scrolling to the bottom on the link below and using Bellerby as an example, the place name to the right is the actual parish. As we know in this case it's Spennithorne, but it also identifies which other surrounding village's the parish consists of :

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/Misc/Where/index.html

I'd be lost without it !  :) :)

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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 12 May 12 15:44 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much.  Extremely useful.