help 12 years search can anyone help

[brendan]

Hi yes have been to Brit lib. sam was married befor he went with the east india co, they have no details of eliz maiden name. no birth certs for the children, christening certs do not give her maiden name. have written to south africa and hold all christening certs.birth certs not issued. need to get john's. i have ordered 2 but both wrong there are quite a few born in shadwell stepney area. if i could find them on the 1841 i could narrow down area and see his age,  i cannot afford to get any more wrong, dad does not understand the cost involved... not to mention the time.

[lizdb]

FreeBMD has a John Thomas TURNER birth, Dec qtr 1837, Stepney, 2 298. Have you checked this one out. Shadwell comes under the Stepney RD.

John Thomas Turner age 3 is on 1841 in Stepney with apparent parents John Thomas and MAry
HO107 713 3
So on the face of it he can be ruled out.

[Finley 1]

I have been having a look for you and nothing really.
BUT found two trees on Ancestry -- with Samuel Turner 1802 Deptford.  Are they yours?? both are private trees.  so need permission to access.



I am sure these trees have the people in you are looking for cos they also have a John born shadwell 1838c
xin

[dawnsh]

Although civil registration started in 1837, the onus for registration was on the registrars to go around their district and record the births. This changed n 1875 when the onus was put on the parents. An unquantifiable numbers of births were not recorded.

So there may not be a birth cert to find.

Dawn

[elzabels]

There is this entry on familysearch.org
 Elizabeth Turner
baptism/christening date: 21 Jun 1835
baptism/christening place: Saint Helena
birth date: 15 Mar 1835
father's name: Samuel Turner
mother's name: Elizabeth Turner
indexing project (batch) number: C01077-3
system origin: Saint Helena-EASy
source film number: 498605


 William Turner
baptism/christening date: 25 Nov 1832
baptism/christening place: Saint Helena
birth date: 02 Aug 1832
father's name: Samuel Turner
mother's name: Elizabeth Turner
indexing project (batch) number: C01077-3
system origin: Saint Helena-EASy
source film number: 498605

Emma Turner
baptism/christening date: 18 Nov 1827
baptism/christening place: Saint Helena
birth date: 26 Feb 1825
father's name: Samuel Turner
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C01077-3
system origin: Saint Helena-EASy
source film number: 498605


and on the same day

George Turner
baptism/christening date: 18 Nov 1827
baptism/christening place: Saint Helena
birth date: 13 Oct 1827
father's name: Samuel Turner
mother's name: Elizabeth
indexing project (batch) number: C01077-3
system origin: Saint Helena-EASy
source film number: 498605



If you look on te site toolbar, you should be able to find a research centre near to you where you may order the film and view the entry

[keyboard86]

Hi, Elizabeth Turner aged 16 b St Helena is a Servant close by to her parents in 1851 in Stepney Census Ref HO107/1552/518/21

Keyboard86

[elzabels]

Samuel TURNER  is recorded as being with the St Helena Rgeiment which was disbanded
in 1838, suggest you google.co.uk where you will find links ot the records.

There is also this researcher on this site

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=115772.new

[elzabels]

From FIBIS.org.uk

Samuel TURNER
BirthDate: 11 Nov 1829
St. Helena
Parents: Samuel, Pte., St. Helena Regt.; Elizabeth
Baptism Date: 15 AprYear: 1830
Location: St. Helena
Transcribed by: British LibraryIndia Office Records Reference:
N/6/3 f.99  Source name: Source year: Source edition: Presidency: Other

[chrispenz]

Hi,
Sounds like we are researching the same family. But I am stuck just the same as you.  Have searched for many, many years, india office, ancestry, find my past etc. and can't find them.
Chrispenz