John Jones - Chirk, Denbighshire

[Gadget]

This is all very tentative but all  that I can find about Samuel at the moment.

On the 1852, he is down as being 69 - i.e. born circa 1782. On the 1841, he has been put in the 45-49 age band - i.e. born 1792-1796. He is recorded as born Chirk.

The only baptism that I can find is this one:

13 Jan 1782 Samuel Jones s/o Samuel and Sarah.

There is another baptism to this couple  on 26 Jan 1777 Mary - Samuel recorded as a Corvr (shoemaker) and a marriage -

18 June 1773 Samuel Jones, shoemaker and Sarah Jones, both otp. Samuel Jones signed.

I also found that Samuel and Mary had a daughter, Sarah:

1st Jan 1826 Sarah d/o Samuel (labourer) and Mary Jones of Pentre


gnu

[Gadget]

Summary ~

Samuel and Mary Jones of Pentre had a daughter, Elizabeth bpt in 1822

John Jones bpt 1846 to Elizabeth Jones, spinster of Pentre

Elizabeth Jones m William Moody in 1848 Father given as Samuel Jones

1851 - John Jones appears as grandson, aged 5,  to Samuel and Mary Jones of Pentre

1864 -  Elizabeth Moody nee Jones dies aged 41 - b.c. 1823

William Moody, widr, marries Martha Phillips in 1864.  One of the witnesses was a John Jones

John Jones gives his father's name as William Moody on his marriage cert in 1866. Witnesses were William and Martha Moody


gnu

[Gadget]

Irene

I've been using my own records, acquired over  many years,  but the Chirk and other Denbighsire parish records are now up (since last week)  on the FindmyPast site. It's pay to view or by sub but probably worth looking at as Chirk records are not available online anywhere else. Because of the Terms and Conditions of FindMyPast we cannot give info from their records.


http://www.findmypast.co.uk/content/news/welsh-records


gnu

[irene33]

Hi Gnu

Thank you so much for all the time you have put into this for me.   It has certainly pointed me in the right direction (again).  Now all I will be doing is finding more about our family from Denbighshire. 

I guess I should also thank my gr. grandfather who almost consistantly recorded on his census records where he was born, even if he didn't live there most of his life.  He must of been awfully proud of his Welsh roots.

Funnily enough, I had only a couple of months ago stopped using FindMyPast.   It looks like I will be signing up again.

Again...thank you so much, your a treasure.

irene

[evan2wo]

Hello.  I am new to these boards and trying to research my son's family with only (currently) a cursory knowledge of England and Wales.  I am also looking for a John Jones of Chirk, Denbigshire, a coal bank laborer.  My son descends from a Job Jones (born 1829 or thereabouts, presumably in Chirk).  He is age 12 in 1841 Census, living with his parents - John and Elizabeth (both age 35).  The oldest child is named Priscilla, age 15.  Then Job, then Samuel (10), Mary (, Levi (6), James (3), Jane (10 mos. in 1841).

By 1851 they are living in Bilston, Staffordshire, England.  Any help in locating them pre-1841 and identifying the larger family to whom John and Elizabeth (nee ?) Jones connect would be greatly appreciated.

Job's daughter Ann married Thomas Hearp in Cannock in 1884, and shortly thereafter they settled in Pittsburgh, PA.  It is a bit difficult to order records from the USA.

Evan

Irene

I've been using my own records, acquired over  many years,  but the Chirk and other Denbighsire parish records are now up (since last week)  on the FindmyPast site. It's pay to view or by sub but probably worth looking at as Chirk records are not available online anywhere else. Because of the Terms and Conditions of FindMyPast we cannot give info from their records.


http://www.findmypast.co.uk/content/news/welsh-records


gnu

[evan2wo]

To follow-up, I *did* just obtain some additional information from the FindMyPast site, recommended by "gnu." it was very helpful, so thank you!  I have now John JONES of Chirk m. Elizabeth CASH of Chirk, 16 Aug 1824.  Job JONES, their son, born May 3, 1829. 

John JONES who m. Elizabeth CASH was likely born 8 September 1804, and baptized 10 February 1805.  However, there is also another John JONES of Chirk, also son of John and Elizabeth, born February 17, 1802.  Perhaps this first John died and the couple had another child with that name.

There is, adding to confusion, another Job JONES, born in Chirk in 1830.  He is one year older than "my" Job JONES in other Census records.  He is the son of John and Ann, and also moves to Staffordshire, but several years after the other Job JONES.  Any relation? It seems Job is not a terribly common name for Chirk.

[Gadget]

Hi Evan  and Welcome to Rootschat 

I don't come on very often these days but your names ring lots of bells with me and the moves to Stafffordshire and Pennsylvania. I would need to get all my files out and read through. Unfortunately, I'm being admitted to hospital tomorrow and I'm not sure when I'll be back and fit enough to search through my boxes.

If you can wait, I'll get back to you in the next few weeks.

Regards

Gadget

[evan2wo]

I can wait, and feel better!