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Re: What Degree is MB Bth?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 08 March 12 16:37 GMT (UK) »
I'd start a step back with a birth cert for Thomas - here's the likely reference from the BMD Index :

  Name: Thomas Henry Quinn
  Registration district: Carrickmacross
  Event type: Birth
  Quarter and year: Jan-Mar 1901
  Volume : 2 / Page : 374

The district of Carrickmacross includes the townland of Greaghlatacapple where the Quinn family are living in 1901.

A birth cert would include mother's maiden name, which will narrow down possible matches for the marriage of Patrick and Eva, which will show father's details and will help prove, or disprove, any possible birth certs for Patrick....

see :  Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon
         Details included on a Birth Cert

         Introduction to Irish Records
         

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Re: What Degree is MB Bth?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 08 March 12 16:50 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much!  I will make this my task for the day. (;

Just to give all this historical exploration a human face, below is a link with a photo of Peter Quinn's son, John Quinn, who emigrated to NY and worked as a zoo-keeper at the Bronx Zoo during the 1920s and 30s.  He died from a zebra bite that went septic.

http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/25167227/person/1620550220/media/29026f86-d0d5-4184-8f26-09c2bb9c9335?pg=32768&pgpl=pid

(I tried to attach the photo, but it was too big.)

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Re: What Degree is MB Bth?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 08 March 12 17:12 GMT (UK) »
Your tree is marked private - so that link doesn't show any details.

Is John Quinn the son of the Peter Quinn who died in Monaghan in 1894 ?




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Re: What Degree is MB Bth?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 08 March 12 17:28 GMT (UK) »
Yes, it is . . . John Quinn (b. 1870, d. 1 May 1936).  He emigrated to NY in Mar/April 1889.
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Re: What Degree is MB Bth?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 08 March 12 17:32 GMT (UK) »
Is John your direct ancestor ?

I think the initial search should be for him and his immediate family...

you mentioned Peter Quinn and Margaret Trainor - and there are some births listed to them between 1870 and 1878 in the extracted collection on FamilySearch, but no sign of a John ....
   
  Patrick Quin, 04 Aug 1870, Monaghan
  Bernard Quinn, 19 Mar 1872, Kilmore, Monaghan
  Margaret Quinn, 17 Mar 1878, Corcaphan, Monaghan

see :  Quinn / Trainor births  

The extracted births are not complete, so there could be other births to this Peter and Margaret


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Re: What Degree is MB Bth?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 08 March 12 21:46 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks

John Quinn is a bit of a mystery man.  On his death certificate, his parents are listed as Peter Quinn and Margaret Trainor, but his reported birth date (25 March 1870) doesn't seem to support this since Patrick Quinn (4 Aug 1870) was born just a few months later.

I appreciate the link to familysearch.com and will keep trying. 
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Re: What Degree is MB Bth?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 09 March 12 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Definitely MB BCh on the image, Shane  :)

so my definition stands and BCh does equate to BS
gnu

For the elucidation of others - BCh is for Bachelor of Chirurgery  which is the archaic word for surgery.
So as Gnu says, it equates to BS.  It was still used early 1800s in Ireland and Scotland.

MB BS is standard qualifications for medical doctors - Bachelor of Medicine & Bachelor of Surgery.

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Re: What Degree is MB Bth?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 09 March 12 13:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dawn

I think that was answered in my first reply:

Hi and welcome to Rootschat  :)

I think it would be MB BCh -

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MB BCh   Medicinae Baccalaureus, Baccalaureus Chirurgiae (Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery)

This is a first qualification in medicine and they are awarded after successful completion of  a 5 year undergraduate course  - other  forms are MB ChB, MB BS, etc. depending on which university the person attended.

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Re: What Degree is MB Bth?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 09 March 12 13:43 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Gnu
Must have had my good eye closed when I read through the thread!

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