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MILITARY UNIFORM ID PLEASE
« on: Saturday 03 March 12 03:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi,All...I know these images are bad,,,but i have had to take photos of a photo on my phone  ::)
I would like to know if this is amilitary uniform,,,and if so,,,can anyone tell me the regiment ,,,cheers  GB  ;)
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: MILITARY UNIFORM ID PLEASE
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 March 12 03:51 GMT (UK) »
Heres the feet.    ;)
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: MILITARY UNIFORM ID PLEASE
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 March 12 05:45 GMT (UK) »
I have seen quite a few millitary photographs and will not state the obvious as to the nationality of the regiment but this is only phoograph I have seen of a soldier who is holding gloves?

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Re: MILITARY UNIFORM ID PLEASE
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 March 12 06:30 GMT (UK) »
Please do state the obvious  :D  i thought it had an Irish look about it,,,but i suppose i am totally wrong and its some Scottish regiment  ;D
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: MILITARY UNIFORM ID PLEASE
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 March 12 00:47 GMT (UK) »
I am aware that the Irish wore Kilts in some of their regiments. The Canadian Scots' Regiments wore Kilts. The Tyneside Scottish Regiment did too. However this is probably a Soldier from a Scots' Regiment from Scotland.

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Re: MILITARY UNIFORM ID PLEASE
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 March 12 01:03 GMT (UK) »
if anyone has a clue about a date,,,that would be great  ;)  I am still leaning towards an Irish regiment,,,call it a hunch  ;D Hopefully one of the experts can have a look and shoot me down in flames  ;) :D ;D
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: MILITARY UNIFORM ID PLEASE
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 March 12 08:59 GMT (UK) »
My thoughts for what they are worth, the Irish as a Celtic race have peopled Scotland in ages past and the Scots from Ireland landed in Scotland at Dalriada  present day Argyle, the flow of peoples back and forth to Ulster and Scotland throughout the centuries eventually formed Ulster Scots with clan associations and tartans to this day, however, to my knowledge I don't know of an Irish Regiment associated with the British Army that wear a kilt except the Irish Guards pipers, who  wear a saffron kilt and Irish caubeen(hat).

During the Irish "troubles" wars of independance some Irish politicians wore kilts.
Getting back to the photo of this young man, it seems to be an assortment of puzzles, the glengarry is correct and the hackle in it, the spats and the hose have the dicing of the Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders, the doublet looks like a piper's though the sporran is not A&SH, The cantle badge is another puzzle and I cant find any thing like it on Scottish Regiments,
It has the Victorian crown  above what appears to be a foot regiment badge - google any foot regiment from 24th foot 29 35 46 48 53 61 64 69 80 83 94 96 97 and 98th foot.

Other options I have looked at include Queen Victoria's School Dunblane and although there is some resemblance to their badge  I don't think it is. Ampleforth College didn't match either.

Tyneside Scottish, London Scottish  didn't match and Liverpool Scottish 8th Scottish Volunteer Battalion  was an option but the cantle badge was different.

So your young man appears no nearer to identification. Reference the gloves,  pipers will sometimes wear gloves with the tips removed to expose the first joint of the fingers when it is very cold, Brigade of Guards wear gloves on public  duties in winter and line regiments wear gloves in parade dress, Ive even seen Gurkha regiments wear gloves on London Public duties.
Though I agree with Barryd that he is a soldier from a Scottish military organisation, Cadet, School or Territorial.?

Apologies for  wittering on but  your man is "getting to me" now and I will continue looking.
As you know there are people on here who can give you chapter and verse just on  a name, does he have a name?

James


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Re: MILITARY UNIFORM ID PLEASE
« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 March 12 01:24 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your observations,,,no name im afraid  ;)
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: MILITARY UNIFORM ID PLEASE
« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 March 12 02:54 GMT (UK) »
Good morning,

You missed one from your list James, 1st foot, the royal scots. The cantle badge looks like royal cypher with crown over, this is one of the badges they use or have used.

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