BURGESS of Frome

[dorsyb]

Hi,

My family name is Burgess, and we come from a long line of Londoners, however, I have discovered my gt gt gt grandfather was Samuel Burgess a card maker from Frome. I know my gt gt grandfather William, his son was also born in Frome, but married in London in 1839.
My thing is, William was born in about 1815, I cannot find a birth for him in Frome to a father Samuel. I believe I have found Samuel in the 1841 census, and also a death certificate in 1844, but I cannot find a parish record for him either. William became a carpenter in London, and so was his son and grandson.
Does anybody know about the Burgess,s of Frome?

[bishenbertie]

Have you tried familysearch (it's free)

[cardiff]

Hi
Could this be the christening
William Burgess
birth 25th June 1810
christened 15th July 1810
father -Samuel
Mother Ann
Westbury Wilts.
I looked in Frome first and could not see him. The reason I looked in Westbury is that Westbury Wilts is not far from Frome, it was also a place that people from Westbury went to work. I know this has I have family that was born Westbury worked in Frome and if you look at the map you will see what I mean? His mother could have been from Westbury.

poss marriage from familysearch.org
Ann Jones=m= Samuel Burgis 31st may 1808 Westbury Wiltshire

 The date of his birth you is out , but whats new! to get an exact birth is great, But often what we think we know and what we find out does not always match!
I hope this is of some help
cheers cardiff

[dorsyb]

Hi,

thankyou for the replies.
Yes i have tried family research, and also the online look-ups of the Frome parish batisms etc.

Cardiff- i hadnt considered Westbury because on the census of 1851, William said he was born in Frome, but of course you could be right, and i will now take a look at records in Westbury.
Thanks for your help in the matter,

Dorsyb

[trish1120]

This may be Samuel who Married 1808 in Wilts;

Samuel BURGESS, Baptised Nov 1784, St John the Baptist, Frome, Somerset
Parents MATTHEW/MARGARET
(Note; between 05-13 Nov)
Also;
JAMES 05 Aug 1787 (Father Mathew, 1 T)
JOSEPH Burges 16 May 1790 (Father Mathew, 1 T)
JOHN Burges, 24 Aug 1794
(Source FreeREG)

Marriage;
04 July 1782, St John the Baptist, Frome, Somerset
Mathew BURGES
Margaret LANDSDOWN
Both of this Parish
Witnesses Thomas JONES, John DEACON
(FreeREG)

Possible Burial;
Matthew BURGESS, 11 Feb 1808, no age given
+ a JOHN Burges 1799 and a THOMAS Burgus 1793, Both with Father Matthew/Mathew

Trish

FreeREG has the 1808 Marriage as BURGIST, Note says Samuel signed Burgess
Both of this Parish at time of Marriage.
Witnesses, Stephen TAYLOR/Barker NEWMAN

[trish1120]

OK maybe not, 1841 Frome Census has Samuel born c 1776, Occp Cardmaker.
What is his age on the Death Cert dorsyb? And who was the informant?

[trish1120]

I see Trees have Samuels Wife as Susannah ALLEN married 1795, Frome

Familysearch has a Susanna BURGES Burial 29 July 1810, Selwood, Frome, Somerset
FreeREG has her age 63, so too old to Marry 1795.

[dorsyb]

Hi Trish,

Thanks for the info. I have seen the Samuel born in 1785 to a Matthew, but I don't think he is mine as his occupation is different.

I have been following the hunch that the Samuel married to sussannah Allen might be the right one. The only reason being The Samuel is born at the right time and I have discovered that her father Thomas Allen was also a carmaker by trade. Other than finding their marriage in 1795 and a couple of daughters born to those names, I cannot find any trace of William born in Frome to a Samuel.
He gives his fathers name and occupation on his marriage certificate. The only clue I have to being born in Frome and his age is the 1851 census. By then he was living in London?

On the death certificate it says the informant is a Harriet Hewitt, but it gives Samuels occupation as a foreman.

Thank you for your help,

Dorsyb

[dorsyb]

Samuels age at death in 1844 was 68