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Re: The Will of Admiral Arthur Phillip
« Reply #72 on: Sunday 10 February 19 00:29 GMT (UK) »
I have been watching this thread with great interest. 

Was a little thrown by the title of Admiral Arthur Phillip at first as he is always known in Australia as Governor Arthur Phillip - but of course he was an Admiral too.

No wonder NSW museum is interested!  He was our first governor when Australia was 'settled' by the convicts and marines et al.

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Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
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Re: The Will of Admiral Arthur Phillip
« Reply #73 on: Sunday 10 February 19 00:44 GMT (UK) »
I have been watching this thread with great interest. 

Was a little thrown by the title of Admiral Arthur Phillip at first as he is always known in Australia as Governor Arthur Phillip - but of course he was an Admiral too.

No wonder NSW museum is interested!  He was our first governor when Australia was 'settled' by the convicts and marines et al.

Wiggy

Haha Wiggy. I thought he was referred to as Captain Arthur Phillip.  :)

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Re: The Will of Admiral Arthur Phillip
« Reply #74 on: Sunday 10 February 19 02:42 GMT (UK) »
Justr realised that this thread was resurrected a few days ago from 2012 when it was first started.    :D
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: The Will of Admiral Arthur Phillip
« Reply #75 on: Sunday 10 February 19 23:16 GMT (UK) »
Curiously... one is only a Governor while one is still governing; once one stops that occupation, one ceases to be one.
Whereas the Queen's Commission (or King's) is for life (unless removed !).

So he WAS "Governor Phillips" for a while, but not after he left; but after he was appointed Admiral, he was always "Admiral Phillips" thereafter.  Which he was when he wrote his Will.  And when he died.


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Re: The Will of Admiral Arthur Phillip
« Reply #76 on: Monday 11 February 19 00:58 GMT (UK) »
 ;) ;)  Not disputing that    :)

- just that 'we' know him as Governor 'cos we 'know' him when he was here!   :D   

Very interesting anyway!

Wiggy 
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: The Will of Admiral Arthur Phillip
« Reply #77 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 00:46 GMT (UK) »
Colin Warner of the N.S.W. Museum wants to do the right thing, and give credit where it is due.

He has written:-
Can you send me a list of names of the members of the RootsChat Group who made the transcription please?

Well, obviously, I can't !

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Re: The Will of Admiral Arthur Phillip
« Reply #78 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 01:07 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if referring him to this thread would suffice?    :-\

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: The Will of Admiral Arthur Phillip
« Reply #79 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 11:54 GMT (UK) »
I have done, several times   ;-)

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Re: The Will of Admiral Arthur Phillip
« Reply #80 on: Tuesday 12 February 19 12:40 GMT (UK) »
He was a post captain in 1788, when in command of the First Fleet to Australia. Post captain was the rank to reach, because if you lived long enough, you would become Admiral of The Fleet. Lord Nelson would have had to live to 1833 to become Admiral of The Fleet. One of Jane Austens brothers was Admiral of The Fleet by early 1860's (photograph on Google somewhere).

There seems to be some doubt where he's buried. It should be St Nicholas, Bathampton just outside Bath. He suffered from the diet in NSW and went to Bath to 'take the waters'. In the Will, Bathwick is mentioned, perhaps Bathampton was called that then.

Sometime between 2003 and 2006 I visited the churchyard. I can't swear to it, but I think I saw his gravestone. I have no memory of disappointment.   
Griffiths Llandogo, Mitcheltroy, Mon. and Whitchurch Here (Also Edwards),  18th C., Griffiths FoD 19th Century.