can you trust the information on a marriage certificate

[stanmapstone]

As davidft says the GRO have no access to the original certificates, they have the quarterly returns which are copies made by the registrar.

Stan

[stanmapstone]

Whether a different system is in place for more modern certificates (eg within the last 20 years or so) I do not know

Quarterly returns are still sent in to the GRO, but the details are input directly to a computer. "The Guidebook for The Clergy" (2011) states under "Quarterly Certified Copies"
6.3 As the certified copy will be keyed by staff at GRO onto a computer to complete the national record of of registrations, and for the production of certificates, it is vital that your handwriting is clear and legible. Surnames should be written in block capitals.

Stan

[Finley 1]

[quote   But when I decided to get her birth certificate because I knew it would list all her older siblings and their ages

Wow I wish UK birth certs listed names of siblings etc..... what a help that would be. 

My (born out of Wedlock) gt.gramps stated a fathers name and occupation on his marriage cert... and I know its a fib....!?!?

 
 

xin

[Billyblue]

Yes, Xinia, it is a great help.

But get this - around 1990 I was in Mexico and got to see someone's birth certificate.
It listed not only the parents but both sets of grandparents!!
My OH says I turned green with envy!

Dawn M

[Cell]

Information on the marriage( regarding fathers) are only what that bride or groom  said who those persons were.
 

I have illegitimate people making up a father, I also have step children naming the stepfather as their father.


Marriage records, are really not worth any hoots when it comes down to facts.

Kind regards

[VivienR]

So now I know that I can't trust the information on a marriage certificate I am interested in knowing what the rest of you think.


Robert England was bapt Oct 20 1811 in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, parents Thomas and Susannah England.

Robert England married Elizabeth Epton or Hepton 30 April 1837 Lopen Somerset. No parents listed.
Elizabeth died and Robert remarried Louise Brooks Rowsell Dec 1877. ( This is the marriage cert I ordered - father of groom on the certificate is listed as Robert.)

Robert and his family are in the 1841, 51, 61,71 and 81 censuses living in Lopen. Robert died 1887 age 72.

So my question to you -  is the Robert England who married Elizabeth and then Louisa also the Robert England born to Thomas and Susannah England.
The witness to Robert's first marriage is a James England.  Thomas and Susannah also had a son James.
But - James left a huge estate and he did not name Robert or any of his descendants in his will - he also did not name another of his brothers in his will although he did name three of his other siblings and their descendants in the will.

And can I ask what is an OP?
Regards
Vivien

[carol8353]

I'll answer the easy bit 

An OP stands for the Original Poster (of the thread or query)

[Dinkydidy]

This discussion, along with my own collection of known-to-be-wrong examples, makes me wonder about the attitude of those who won't accept information unless it is "confirmed" by certificates.

Didy

[janan]

So now I know that I can't trust the information on a marriage certificate I am interested in knowing what the rest of you think.


Robert England was bapt Oct 20 1811 in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, parents Thomas and Susannah England.

Robert England married Elizabeth Epton or Hepton 30 April 1837 Lopen Somerset. No parents listed.
Elizabeth died and Robert remarried Louise Brooks Rowsell Dec 1877. ( This is the marriage cert I ordered - father of groom on the certificate is listed as Robert.)

Robert and his family are in the 1841, 51, 61,71 and 81 censuses living in Lopen. Robert died 1887 age 72.

So my question to you -  is the Robert England who married Elizabeth and then Louisa also the Robert England born to Thomas and Susannah England.
The witness to Robert's first marriage is a James England.  Thomas and Susannah also had a son James.
But - James left a huge estate and he did not name Robert or any of his descendants in his will - he also did not name another of his brothers in his will although he did name three of his other siblings and their descendants in the will.

And can I ask what is an OP?
Regards
Vivien

Hi

I think there are 2 Roberts

Your Robert consistently gives his birth as c 1816 and birthplace as Lopen. In 1841 where ages are rounded down he is 20 ie 20-25 so could have been born 1816-1821. The Robert son of Thomas and Susannah would have been born 1811 or before. There is another Robert born c1811 who gives his birthplace in 1851 as South Petherton who would fit the Robert son of Thomas and Susannah. Also in Lopen 1841 there is a Robert age 40 ie 40-45 who could be your Robert's father as named on the marriage certificate.

I would want to look into this more

Jan