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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #18 on: Friday 09 March 12 12:12 GMT (UK) »

 Hi syljun


I am now looking at the entry for a Thomas Davies, and this is exactly what it says:

April-May-June 1972

Davies:

Thomas   23 Sept 1888 E Glamorgan 8b 1332

END

The informant may have known Thomas's date of birth, but unlikely to have ever seen his birth certicate, for whatever reason.

I have been doing family history, and have taught it, long before we had the internet, so I have travelled all over the country, in early years, and was often surprised at what I found. Meeting relatives, you never knew existed, and them them telling you things, that you'd never get through other  sources.

Without boring you too much, with the final details, I traced a brother of my darling grandfather. Grampa, nor anyone else in the family knew. Not ONE of the family knew about it, until I rooted around in the past, and "dug it up". My grandfather's brother was 92 when I met him, but unfortunately, grampa had long since gone on to greener pastures, as grampa was 23 when his brother was born.
So, the moral of the story, is, keep an open mind, because you never know what you may find.

Maybe there is a secret in your family, that they wanted hidden. But, fortunately for us, who noses around in the past, it makes the search so much more interesting.

Happy hunting

I am really hoping that this is is the one to help solve the mystery

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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #19 on: Friday 09 March 12 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi welsh_angel,
Thank you for your encouragement and acknowledge there may well be a secret. I did scout around and found the full entry on Genes. Surprising that some of web-sites do not have all info. The exact date of birth is I believe quite new on Death certs as opposed to just age that for most Informants was guesswork.
I spoke to a cousin of 84yrs a little while ago and he also said his Mother had never spoken of a brother.
Oh I wish I had asked questions when I was younger but wasn't interested in Family history and now I 'm an addict.
Nice to know you met your Grandpa's brother. Hope you got a photo. I would love to have more of my Ancestors. Have sent for D/Cert so will have to curb impatience.
Thank you once again.I shall be shouting "EUREKA" if I can make a connection. I will be forever grateful to Morganllan for finding entry.
Best wishes, Syljun

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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 10 March 12 02:00 GMT (UK) »
.... I could have papered a room with all the wrong Certs for him and others. I recently shredded 33. Only have 4 now to go...

Noooooo! Please don't shred them. You can offer them to other Rootschatters on the Unwanted DH Documents & Artefacts Board:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,153.0.html

Alternatively you can offer them through family history societies or magazines. They may be useful to someone else.

I will keep my fingers crossed that you receive the correct certificate soon  :D

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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 10 March 12 07:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Yes I did make a list and offered them a few years ago on one web-site. so long ago I cannot remember but no-one wanted any of them so recently did a clearing out.
The few I have now I will.
syljun


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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 17 March 12 03:31 GMT (UK) »
Just to let you know I am back to square one with William Thomas Davies.
Wrong Death Cert. but same birth date. Thanks for all your help. Syljun

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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 17 March 12 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi syljun

I'm so sorry to hear that you still haven't found your WTD. I will keep looking, periodically, for you, to see what I can come up with, but the difficulty for me is I don't know what ground you've covered over the years, and I don't want to spend time going over what you've already eliminated. However, can you answer a few questions for me, that will make it easier for me to know what path to go down?
Firstly, how do you know that the last death certificate wasn't your WTD if the only thing you know about him is his date of birth, which appears to have been on the last certificate? What was it about that certificated that told you it wasn't your WTD?
Secondly, have you followed all the leads for a death of William Thomas Davies immediately after the taking of the 1911 census? For example, I can see that a William T Davies b abt 1889 died in the first quarter of 1911. I know that this can't be your WTD as the 1911 census was taken  2/3 April of that year.

I really want you to solve this mystery, but from experience, and MANY people in my family tree, people often get airbrushed out of the family for many, many different reasons. A few in my tree even changed their surnames, for example, my husband's grandmother had 8 children, but on my husband's mother's birth certificate my husband's grandmother, surname is Hopkins. Out of the 8 births, this is the only time she's put Hopkins. On all the others it's a different surname. My husband knew nothing whatsoever about his grandmother, not even her name, intil I, OF COURSE started digging around in the past, and discovered that his grandmother had married her first cousin, and it wasn't accepted by the rest of her family. This is just an example, and I am sure that the mystery of your WTD will come as a great surprise when you eventually find out what happened to him. And I am sure you will find him with just a little more digging.


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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 17 March 12 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Hello welsh_angel,
Thank you so much for your encouragement. The Birthplace and Father's name is incorrect and it was a brother who registered death. I have accounted for his siblings and actually knew three of them and found death of brother.
If you do in time find anything I would be extremley grateful but nothing is known, only what was on 1911 Census. I shall be a bit quiet on computer for a little while as I have had bad news. My husband was suddenly taken ill and did not recover. I am having five minutes to myself right now and addicted to family history as I am curious as to what is going on. Please do not think I am ignoring you or being impolite if I do not answer straight away if you do find anything. WTD has certainly had me running around for a long time perhaps one day everything will turn out to be simple. Thanks again for your interest and help. Regards, Syljun

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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 17 March 12 22:53 GMT (UK) »
Dear syljun, I am so sorry to hear about your husband,  It's so difficult to find the right words to say to someone  who has just lost a loved one. I will keep searching to see what I can find, but please don't feel compelled to answer this post.You take all the time you need. 

Regards

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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 17 March 12 23:01 GMT (UK) »
Hello Syljun

I am also very sorry to hear about your husband. Be brave and take strength from your happy memories of your loved one.  :-*  Rootschat will be here when you are ready to resume the search for the elusive WTD.

Kindest Regards
Morgan