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Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« on: Thursday 01 March 12 15:30 GMT (UK) »
I am still having great difficulty in finding Uncle - William Thomas Davies b.1888/90.
Found a death on Freebmd which may be his Sept.Qtr 1946 I am only going by age given as 56 which is nearest to birth. My question is what Newspaper would most likely have an Obituary in Pontypridd if of course one was published.
Wrong Marr. Cert received this morning, great disappointment once again so trying another way to obtain any info I can to put this matter  to rest. have driven me mad for years.

William Thomas Davies b. 1888, Barry, Glamorgan. 1911 Census living at 84 Bonvilston Road,Pontypridd, Coal Miner Hewer Age 21 - living as Boarder with Connor family.
He was actually born 23rd Sept. 1888. I have Copy B/Cert.
Any help greatly appreciated. Have spent hours searching Electoral Rolls.
Thanks,
Syljun

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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 March 12 00:21 GMT (UK) »
What other information do you have about W T Davies? Do you know if he married, or who his parents were?

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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #2 on: Friday 02 March 12 02:05 GMT (UK) »
Hello welsh angel  :)

Syljun has no info about WTD after 1911 or whether he married, so has started various threads to try to eliminate him from possible marriages and/or deaths.

Best Wishes
Morgan

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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 March 12 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Has he tried the Military records or shipping records? He may have died in the First World War, or emigrated, as many of in my family did.

I would ask the question, why was WTD never talked about in family circles? Was there a family scandal and WTD was bannished from the family,and therefore, moved to another part of the country, or as stated above, emigrated?  All these need to be looked into.

There are many death records for WTDs whose ages are correct for them being born around 1888.





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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 March 12 16:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks welsh angel and morganllan,
I have tried Military Records - guess how many there are - especially if he dropped his first name of William but that may have been by Informant on Census, perhaps he was known as Thomas to them.

Have also checked War Memorials for Home Town of Barry and also Pontypridd.
After checking my notes from Glamorgan Archives (what a nightmare getting there) I have today gone for broke and ordered three Certs. 1 Marr (again) 1 Death and one for a child which may be his. Watch this space! Also checked Newspapers in Cardiff Library in case his Mother had Obituary and he attended funeral. No Obituary found.
I feel I cannot do any more so will give up if nothing connects.
P.S. Also rejoined Genes after many years lapsing. No luck, must be mad.
As to family - I never heard Mother speak of him and unfortunately no-one left has any info.
Cannot think there would be a scandal. Thanks for your time and interest. Would still like to know Newspapers and where possible sighting can be made for 1946.

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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 March 12 00:50 GMT (UK) »
Was 1 of your certificates this 1?

Thomas Davies age 83 born 23rd Sept 1888
died 1972 (Apr-Jun quarter)
East Glamorgan 8b volume page 1332

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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 March 12 07:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
East Glamorgan is now of course Reg.Dis.for Barry.
Have investigated several William and Thomas from Barry. Myself born and bred in Barry until leaving 1955 when married I would have known Uncle as I knew the Aunts. He did not attend my Mother's funeral in 1960 and have checked her Obituary so am concentrating on Pontypridd.
Have switched back to William Thomas Davies and now going on hunches. He may well have enlisted in 1st World War and survived going back to Pontypridd as opposed to home of Barry. Have found a marr. 1920 so going on hunches.
Thanks you for your interest, any help and suggestions welcome. You may have guessed at my age so time is running out and getting desperate.
Regards,
Syljun

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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 03 March 12 11:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi syljun
I've been doing a little research myself, into your family history, to see if I can get some clues as to what may have happened to your WTD. I can see that WTD would have only been around 5 years of age, when his dad died, in 1893. Mary Jane also had another baby, not long before her first husband died. I can also see that WTD isn't living with his mother, her husband -Alfred-, or his siblings, in 1901. Or he could be spending the night with a relative or friend. Mary Jane also has a child with Alfred. So, the questions I am asking myself is:

Where was WTD on the 1901 census
With Mary Jane having young children at the time of her first husband's death, did she concentrate on looking after a very young baby, and the older children, and leaving WTD to go and live with a relative? Maybe there are clues in the 1901 and 1911 census

I can also see that WTD's mother was born, and spent much of her youth, in Staffordshire. Could it be that she still had relatives there, and WTD went to that part of the country?

I am fascinated to discover what happened to WTD. I will keep looking to see what I can come up with, but in the meantime, keep me posted of how your search is going.

Happy hunting, and good luck!

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Re: Obituary 1946 Pontypridd
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 03 March 12 12:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks welsh_angel,

1901 Census young William is staying with Grandmother Elizabeth Stringer and Aunt and Uncle - Thomas and Jane Evans at 27 Everard St. Barry. the last baby born to William and Mary Jane Davies is Rhoda (my mother).  Their Father died age 34 so Mary Jane remarried Alfred Owen and had dau.Edith.
Alfred died 1904.
After going over Electoral notes I realise that the votes for age 21 did not come into force until 1818 when the men came back from war.
I have picked up on a William Thomas Davies living at 13 Dewi St, Pontypridd on the 1920 Spring Electoral Roll. (seems to be on his own no-one else mentioned) There is a marr. Dec.1920 WTD and Margaret E.Davies and a birth of a Rhoda Davies 1923.
Going on hunches now (last chance)
Thanks for your interest, will let you know when receive Certs.
Best wishes,
Syljun