smith/booth gypsies nottingham

[swampinstein]

Hiya Kaz
seems you have questions too

We need to find Kesiah's parents then.
I know some of Everett's children were born in Leicester and was hoping today at the records office I could at least find those... but they had nothing in the records office of travellers except a folder with a few names in and Plumb and Booth wasn't there, so I don't think it was a complete list.

[kaziah]

Nathan Plumb was being a naughty boy before Everett was born....

Nathan Plumb's sister Jane Plumb bn 1796 married Robert Plumb bn 1796
was a Rug Maker and frame work knitter, known gypsy trades - they had a daughter in 1826
called Sylvia/Sybrina/Sylvester/Silvery - a Gypsy name...

In 1861 & 1871 Nathan Plumb gave his occupation as a Hawker - gypsy occ.

Violleta Plumb (Married name Caunt) had Kesiah Booth and Everett Plumb's daughter Mary ann Smith and her children go and live with her - Mary Ann Smith was a Hawker as were her sons...

I think the Plumb's were on the cusp of gypsy life - I think further generations back they may well have been full gypsy...

Kazi

[swampinstein]

My Sarah Plumb was done for receiving stolen goods from her daughter....so even Sarah and her family were being naughty....So that is Nathan and his sister, not only that their cousin john who ended up being transported to Tasmania....Makes ya wonder why they were all being naughty when William had money...it seems William's children struggled in life....but I go back to his will.....he did leave them something, so what happened?
Then we have William's wife trying to get money from Henry wreights estate.....it states her cousin but I can't find a connection .
There seems to be money floating around the tree yet they were poor

[swampinstein]

maybe the money William left them wasn't much after all.....I did look on a converter and it said £12 in 1840's was worth in todays money over £500

[swampinstein]

Framework knitters had it rough about 1818/20ish...many could not get work and were starving because there was now better machines to do their jobs.

[swampinstein]

you need to look up 1881 census for Rutlandshire

James Booth of Blisworth and wife Sophia Smith lived there

They had a son Henry Booth 1833 Old Dalby Leicestershire
Keziiah Booth born 1773 Oakham Rutlandshire

Think also

Albert Booth
Enock Booth
Mary Booth
Harriet Booth

They all lived
Lord's Hold, John's Count Oakham Rutlandshire

Yet on here it says parents Henry and Emma booth

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQ46-V7R

was Henry James father and then James had another Keziah

[swampinstein]

don't know if this helps

Snow Hill, Melton Mowbray 1891

Cinamenta Smith 63 Hawker Thoresby Lin
James Booth, 100, father, Chair Bottomer Blisworth Northants

  does that mean James was 100


James BOOTH b: 1794 in Blisworth, Northampton  SOphia SMITH b: 1793 in Sharnford, Leicestershire

[nottsgirl1]

There a James Booth who died in Melton Mowbray Dec Qtr 1892 aged 98yrs making him born 1794

[swampinstein]

Think that must be the same James