smith/booth gypsies nottingham

[kaziah]

Hi,

I'm doing my sons family history.  We know that his Gt Gt Grandmother was Mary Ann Smith bn 1871 in a gypsy caraven.  Her parents were John smith bn 1834 and Maria ? bn 1837.
I have found them on 1871 & 1881 census.

1871 their children are listed as
Cinymentia Smith bn 1857
William Smith bn 1865
George Smith bn 1868
Selina Smith bn 1866
Mary Ann Smith bn 1871

by 1881 they had also had
Florrie Smith bn 1876
Kesiah Smith bn 1874
Joseph Smith bn 1878

in 1881 they are next to a Spiver family who look connected.

There is also a Selina Smith bn 1832 with 5 children near them on the 1871 census who looks related.
Next to them is an Everitt Plumb with a Keziah Smith and what looks like their 5 children.

Does anyone have any other information on this family??? Or any pointer on where I can look?  Any help gratefully recieved.

Kazi

[LH35]

Welcome to the site Kaziah,  although your Smith family travelled round the  Nottingham area , you will get more info from the Travling folk board  .Ive come across the Smith family  when looking for mine on ancestry ..Heres the link

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,387.0.html

[kaziah]

Hi, anyone who's reading this...

I'm still plodding away on this.  I think there is a definite link with the Booth / Plumb family.

Everett Plumb bn 1833 Notts

Everett Plumb also used the name Everett Booth bn 1864

His sister Mary Ann Plum /Booth / Smith bn 1860 Notts who used all 3 surnames.
Have sent off for some books on Gypsy family history and customs and found some good website - BUT if anyone has any pointers I'd be more than grateful.

My main interest is in Mary Ann Smith bn 1869/70 Arnold/Ilkeston ? who ended up living with George Slater a salt Hawker in Derby till she died...  I have yet to find the death.

Kazi

[swampinstein]

I was brought up to believe my ancesters on my grandmother's side of the family were gypies.....I have been seaching for years with no luck...I came on this site yesterday for help regarding my Great grandfather and it has led me back to the Plumb name from Nottingham....did a search and it has brought me to this page and I see the word Gypsy!!

I have a Joseph Elk (Elk being the name I have searched for ages being connected to gypsies with no luck)
Find out Joseph married a Plumb.....search Plumb and hey presto!!!

Can anyone give me info on the Plumbs

Joseph married Sarah Plumb in 1885 in Nottingham

[nottsgirl1]

Hi Swampinstein,

Joseph Elks and Sarah Plumb married 10 Jan 1825 St Peters Church Radford not 1885 as you say in your post.
There are quite a few Plumb family's in Nottinghamshire so you would need a bit more info.  I've been doing some Plumbs from Lambley.

Nottsgirl1

[kaziah]

The Plumbs I have are from Lambley too...

Still convinced they are interconnected with our family...

Kazi

[nottsgirl1]

Hi Kaziah,

I've the desendents of Samuel Plumb born abt 1783 and Mary Green born abt 1781 both Lambley. samuel then married Mary's sister Elizabeth Green aft Mary died in 1832.

There was a Everet Plumb christened on 4 April 1836 son of Nathan and Ann Plumb.

You say he also used the name Everett Booth born 1864, why would he say he was born 1864 and 1833/36 making him 30yrs younger than he was??

If there is anything you would like me to look for in Nottingham Archives please let me know.

Nottsgirl1

[swampinstein]

sorry..yes 1825...my typo mistake...lol

That is all the info I have other than they had a daughter Harriatt.

I need to find out more on the plumb family.

I was starting to think the gypsy connection was all wrong even though my late father always mentioned it and also recently a cousin said her mum mentioned it too...But after searching for years and finding nothing I thought maybe they had gotten it wrong and I was searching for a red herring.
Then I found the Plumb connection and this led me to this page and I couldn't believe it when gypsies were mentioned. So they could have been right after all.  I was just searching in the wrong places.

[swampinstein]

Do any of you know where there was gypsy camps (not sure if that is what you call them) in Nottingham.

The decendants of this family ended up in Kent and I know there was a big community there.