smith/booth gypsies nottingham

[swampinstein]

Thank you,

Hope you have a good evening xx

Jane x

[nottsgirl1]

Hi Jane,

Maybe silly question but what is the connection from Frederick Elks to Joseph and Sarah?

Here's what is said in the newspaper report:


Nottingham Guardian Newspaper Thursday 16 Aug 1869

At Nottingham County Court

Saturday – (Before the Mayor and J. Hadden, Esq.)
A DISHONSET OVERLOOKERS.---- Harriett Elks, aged 22, single woman, Snenton Elements, was charged with stealing 2lbs. Weight of silk, the property of her master, Mr S. W. Moore, of Hockley-Mill.  Police constable Cliff said: At half past two o’clock yesterday afternoon, I went into the shop of a general dealer, named Dodd, and saw John Coney selling some spun silk.  I asked him where he had got it from, and he said he had brought it of a woman living at Snenton, and that he had given her 1 ¼ d. a pound for it.  I took a bit of it to Mr Moore’s, and found that it corresponded with that used in the Mill.  I afterwards went to the house of prisoner’s mother, in Snenton Elements, where I found a quantity of the same material.   The prisoner, who was a overlooker at the mill, admitted taking the silk, which she said had got ravelled on the bobbins, and she had cut it off so the girls might not stop in the Mill all night to put the silk right. She was remanded until Monday.
Sarah Elks, mother of the last prisoner, was charged with receiving the silk.  She admitted that her daughter had brought silk home from time to time, although she had repeatedly cautioned her not to do so.  She was discharged.

Monday - (Before the Mayor and Mr J. Wells, Esq)
REMANDAD CASE- Hannah Elks, remanded from Saturday was discharged, Mr. Moore declined to prosecute.

Nottsgirl1

[swampinstein]

Joseph Elks and Sarah Plumb had daughter Harriett......Harriett then had a daughter Harriett.....then the second Harriett had Frederick.....so that makes Joseph and Sarah Fredericks Great Grandparents and my Great great great great grandparents


 ;)thank you for the news article

[nottsgirl1]

Hi Jane,

Thanks I just wondered. 

nottsgirl1

[nottsgirl1]

Hi

Here's some more on the Plumb's:


Didernia Plumb born 1812 married William Sabin a wheelwright of Greasley 15 Oct 1852 at St Leodegarius Basford witnesses were James Plumb and Elizabeth Raynor.
Census: 1861 Greasley, RG9, Piece 2434, Folio 49, Pg 29, William aged 45yrs, Didernia 44yrs Charles (son) aged 7yrs.
1881: 215 Ilkeston Rd, Radford, RG11, Piece 3344, Folio 38, Pg 22, William aged 64yrs, Didernia aged 66yrs
1901: 8 Forest St, Hyson Green, RG13, Piece 3184, Folio 192, Pg 37, Didernia aged 87 a widow. Died Dec 1901 aged 82yrs.

Susannah Plumb born 1804 married William Millot 2 May 1830 at St Marys Hucknall Torkard
Children’s Christenings: Charles 25 Dec 1830,  Ann 17 May 1835, Mary 29 March 1841 born 19 Nov 1838 all at St Mays Hucknall Torkard.
Census:
1841: Hucknall Torkard, Ho107, Piece 858, Folio 18, Pg 28, William Millot aged 35yrs, Susannah 35yrs, Charles 10yrs, Ann 6yrs, Mary 2yrs.
1851: Hucknall Torkard, HO107, Piece 2172, Folio 619, Pg 27, William aged 47yrs, Susannah 46yrs, Ann 15yrs, Mary 12yrs.


Would you like me to keep researching the Plumbs for you.

Nottsgirl1

[swampinstein]

  If you don't mind.....anything you find is a great help to me ..unless you have had enough, i'd understand if you have xx

[swampinstein]

If you have access to the newspaper site....could you find the article on John Plumb....it's in one of the nottingham papers about him dying in Tasmania.

[kaziah]

Hi Kaziah here,

I would love more Plumb info if it's not too much trouble...  It's such a help.
Have had a bad day to day - I have Lupus, it's a bottom at the moment...

I have another question you may be able to help with too...

Lucy Ann Mason bn 1847 Nottingham who is the half sister of the Everett Plumb bn 1833 Nottingham
Her Mother was Ann Cook bn 1806 Gunthorpe who was first partner of Nathan Plumb bn 1799 Lambley, then partner of John Mason bn 1806 who is Lucy Ann's Father...

Lucy Ann Mason married 1867 4Q Liverpool a
Edwin Booth bn 1845 Nottingham

Who is this Edwin Booth's parents???  I'm struggling with this one...
Hope you don;t think I'm being cheeky
Kazi

[swampinstein]

Awww Kaziah, sorry to hear you have lupus, I know how that can affect you.....I have fibromyalgia so also have my good days and bad....Hope you feel better soon


I'm not sure about Lucy...I have Ann cook