Archibald Ramage & Smithson Peverall

[suberra]

Henry Rammage was buried at the anglican church of St Mary and St Cuthbert on 14 December 1837 ( per DRO)

[coombs]

Hi

It is definately Husband Man.

Ben

[Empty]

Hi again Ben, yes it is definitely Husband-man. There just appears to be a blemish on the page which makes it look like another part of the word!
Suberra, you are very generous sharing your certificates with us all.Thank you.
Barney, thanks for clarifying that neither Archibald nor Smithson had been married before.
Moira

[coombs]

Hi

Glad to have helped with the occupation. We need to find out when Archie Ramage was born now.

Ben

[suberra]

I have just received the marriage bond index from DRO and in 1757 Archibald Ramage age 39 and a widower obtained a licence to marry Smithson Peverell age 32.
That puts his birth date at about 1717 -1718 and hers 1724-1725.
We now know there was a first wife.............

[coombs]

HI

I think the 1741 Archibald Ramage marriage in Leeds to Ann Bent is the right one. We now need to search for a 1718 birth. It could well be in Scotland.

Some research says that Smithson Peverell was born in Gainford in 1725 and had a sister Eleanor. I cannot remember what site this info was off though.

Ben

[Darlingtonian]

Barney ...... I was just looking at Suberra's post saying Archie was previously married.  Did you make a mistake in your post, saying 'the bride and groom were both previously unmarried'?

I just trying to find where I got my information on smithson.... I have her baptised 29th Nov 1725 in Gainford, Co Durham.... daughter of Henry and Mary Peverall.  Siblings were Elianor Peverall baptised 17th August 1727 (she married Joseph Carter in Chester le Street on 8th July 1756.  I also found a brother John baptised 26th Dec 1716 - died 30th May 1717.

I think I have a copy of the images somewhere from FamilySearch. (must get my filing up to date)   

Jean

[Empty]

So Archibald was a widower when he married Smithson in 1757!
The IGI on familysearch has the following children for Archie, the only mention of Smithson is as Henry's mother -
Elizabeth Ramage b.1758 baptised St Peters Leeds
John        Ramage b.1760 baptised Chester le Street
Robert    Ramage  b. 1761 baptised St Peters Leeds
Mary        Ramage b. 1764 baptised St Peters Leeds
Henry      Ramage b. 1768 baptised Chester le Street

Births for Archibald Ramage(or Rammage) are-
1712 in Eastwood Renfrewshire to William Rammage & Elizabeth Jack

1714 in Duddingston Midlothian to James Rammage & Margaret Turrence

I still do not believe either of these are our Archibald - why did he not have sons named James or William after his father?
Regarding the marriage to Anne Benton in 1741, I have searched for a birth of Anne but the only one I turned up was born in June 1720, baptised in July -at St Peters Leeds- , and died in August.
Like Darlingtonian I'm annoyed with myself for misplacing the written source for Archie being a tobacconist from Wakefield. I'm sure he'd be delighted to know how interested we all are in him!
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[Darlingtonian]

Oh .... I have that one Empty ..... it's Smithson's baptism I can't find.