Archibald Ramage & Smithson Peverall

[coombs]

Hi

I wonder if Archie left a will. This would help. We need to find out when he actually died though.

Ben

[Darlingtonian]

Finding a Will ..  Ben ..... should solve a load of problems ..... if only!!

I was just looking back through these posts .. when Suberra was wanting to know about Smithson Mary Rammage .... posted 8th jan.

Well I've been looking back through my family and Henry and Elizabeth Airey's daughter Smithson, baptised 1 Mar 1795  ... is probably the same person ... it seems strange that she dropped the Smithson and was down as just Mary Mavin on the 1841 census (from Empty's post).

Jean

[Darlingtonian]

The Chester le Street burials from 1765 until 1837 all seem to be recorded in FamilySearch - Record Search ...... so I think we can be sure Archie didn't die in co durham ..... I think he must have gone back into Yorkshire.  After Smithson died in 1770 .... I've been having another look through ... but Co Durham is very well documented online ..... and I can't see a thing.

If it said 'settlement at Wakefield' on Smithson's burial record in chester le street..... I would say he was in Wakefield.

Jean
 

[suberra]

I agree with the Wakefield assumption. Since a lot of the children were christened at Saint Peter in Leeds and that isn't too far away from Wakefield maybe that was his 'local'. After Smithson died he probably would not have gone back to Durham.
I think it's great that so many of us are hunting this ancestor, surely between us we'll track him down. I've been trying to find a directory with a listing in, no luck yet of course. I really wonder why he and Smithson migrated between Chester Le Street and Wakefield. It appeared to be constant though. How far would that have been for them?

[Darlingtonian]

I think it probably was because smithson came from co durham and Archie from wakefield. 

I make a story myself that ...Archie came to durham because he already had relatives there ..........met and married smithson ..... stopped off at Leeds on their way back to Wakefield ...... had three children ....... went back to durham and had the rest of their family .... until smithson died ..... then went back to wakefield.

Only his work as a tobacconist has me beat ..... did he have a shop or work from home?

My relatives come to life in my eyes ........ lol

Archie's son Henry ..stayed and died in durham ....
Henry's son Henry ... stayed and died in durham ...
I haven't really followed any of the other children.

Yes that so many are looking for archie is great. I only wish so many were looking for some of my other relatives.

Jean

[suberra]

The full marriage bond entry I just received states: 13 Oct 1757 Archibald Ramage ( widower, gentleman) age 39 of Chester Le Street obtained a licence to marry Smithson Peverell age 32 of Chester Le Street. Surety Joseph Tiffin of Chester Le Street, note married 15 Oct at Chester Le Street.
What I find of interest there is that he is listed as living in Chester not Wakefield and he is a gentleman. That suggests a decent standard of living.
Does it help us though!

[coombs]

Hi

I think Archie Ramage lived in Wakefield but he may not have been from there originally. I am in the opinion that he was Scottish.

The flits between Wakefield and Chester were probably work wise, or Archie had a business in Chester and Leeds/Wakefield. If he was a tobacconist, then hey presto. I am sure that he left a will if he was a gentleman and tobacconist.

Ben

[Arthur29]

Hi all, I'm quite new to this site, i believe i may am a descendant of Archibald Ramage
B 1730 via son
Henry Ramage B:1768
Christopher Ramage B:1799
Robert Ramage B:1842
William Ramage B:1871
Alice Ramage B:1895
Alice was my paternal Grandmother who married Ernest Cannings.
Edmund Cannings
ME
so i believe that makes Archibald Ramage my gt gt gt gt gt gt gt grandfather
If anyone can confirm their relationship to myself i would very much like to hear from you.
Regards Arthur

[Empty]

Hello Arthur,
there are lots of us descended from Archibald!
I also came via his son Henry b.1768
Christopher Ramage b.1799
John Ramage b.1830
Jane Ramage b.1859 who married George P Wiseman - her son also
George P Wiseman b.1883 who was my maternal grandfather
We only think Archie was born 1730 because now we know he was married and widowed before he married Smithson Peverell he may have been older.
Any thoughts??
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