Waterford Marriage look up, please. Keane/Shanahan

[treebird]

Hello,
I am trying to find the parents names of Anne Keane & Philip Shanahan.

Anne Keane & Philip Shanahan were married in the Parish Church of Holy Trinity Within Waterford (Cathedral) on 2nd January 1862.

I only have information as to who the witnesses (Michael Burke & Mary Ann Walsh) were but do not have the names of Anne's parents/occupation nor do I have the names of Philip's parents/occupation. I am especially hoping to find Anne Keane's mother's maiden name. I was told that Anne Keane came from a family of Welsh Quakers, but Keane is clearly an Irish name, so I am assuming that her mother may have had a Welsh surname.

Can anyone please help to find these details if they exist?

It would be so very much appreciated!
Sincerely,
Pamela

[shanew147]

Is that the RC Cathedral ?

RC parish records rarely include details of occupation, and for the date involved probably dont include parents names. Where did you find the details you already have on the marriage ?


Shane

[debu]

HI Pamela sorry to say that parents names are not included in Church records before 1875, for 3 of waterford City Church's , (Big Chapel Cathedral) St Patrick's, and Ballybricken, St John's Church starts late 1850s. That why it is hard to research families in Ireland and with all but 2 census destroyed. De

[treebird]

Thank you both for your reply.  I have the information given to me by another family member who did some genealogy. We are both stuck at this marriage record. We have no birth records of the bride nor groom or the name of their parents. We are completely at a dead end. 
Does anyone have any super sleuth ideas of how to delve into that?  We have the birth records of 4 of Anne & Philip's children (Mary Margaret, John J., Bridget and Philip J.). One birth record, of my great-grandmother, Hanna (aka Ann) Shanahan is missing. 

Their first 3 children were born in Waterford and one born in Boston. My great-grandmother, Hanna was supposedly born in Ireland (but not quite sure where) before they immigrated to Boston. Philip Shanahan was not around at the time of her birth as he was in Boston (he was a seaman/ship's carpenter) and had disappeared and married another woman in Boston.  It was only when he was sick with a fever that he accidentally spilled the beans and upon interrogation by his 2nd wife, confessed that he had a wife back in Ireland with 4 children (sailors!).  His 2nd wife took pity and insisted that he send for his wife and family and that they get back together (good gal!).  Anne traveled to Boston with her 4 children in about 1873.

I can go forward but can not go back any further than Anne Keane and Philip Shanahan.  When they came to America they names on records became Anne Kane and Philip Shannon.

If anyone has any advice on how to find out about their family background, I would be most grateful.

all the best,
Pamela

[treebird]

I made one error in my last post.  We do have the names of Anne's parents as they were listed on her death certificate as:
James & Mary Kane (but no maiden name of mother which I am desperately trying to find).
I've tried looking for a James and Mary Keane but can't find any records. The only record that I can find, is a census record from 1891 - a James and Mary Kane living in South Wales (Trevethin in Monmouthshire) with their son John.  They men were listed as iron workers and coal miners - this could be them as I have been told we had Welsh coal miners on Anne's side.

[shanew147]

To search for baptism you would probably need a more specific place of birth for Anne - i.e. was it somewhere in Waterford city, or County ?

There are quite a few parishes in the county, and not all have records back as far as the 1840s

(you didn't mention year of birth - so that's an estimate ).


Shane