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Re: James Paterson/ Margaret Lawson
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 01 March 12 04:42 GMT (UK) »
Electoral Rolls
1949
Alexander, Samuel and Margaret at 19 Glassop St, Caringbah
1954
Ditto

This could be Samuel's death notice (although I can't see Samuel on more recent electoral rolls in Sydney unless he became a schools inspector  ??? so perhaps he went interstate or overseas)

PATERSON   Samuel   Death notice   21JAN1998   Death         Sydney Morning Herald   23JAN1998

If you go to Ryerson Index http://ryersonindex.net/search.php you can see a link down the left to request a lookup.  This is free as it is volunteers who do this for you.

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Re: James Paterson/ Margaret Lawson
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 01 March 12 14:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to all roots chatters for amazing input regarding my Aunt and Uncle this is definitely the family,all the children were born in the Calton district of Glasgow and I think Margaret migrated with children before James as I understand he served in the Royal Navy in WW11 as a Petty Officer and went to Australia after this.It is wonderful how you all found deaths and burials of family.
Patty25,There was no mansion,only a Paterson family house in Cambuslang in the outskirts of Glasgow which was owned by my Great Gran Margaret Hunter Paterson who died there in 1934,also living there were her son Alexander kia 1917 and her daughters Margaret,Jessie and Isabella who were all spinsters.Isabella was the last to die in 1978 and the house reverted to the oldest male Paterson who was Alexander in Australia,he then sold it and returned home.
Your Grandfather Samuel Paterson died in 1953 in Wembley Middlesex,England.
My Mother was Jessie Paterson,and two of her sisters Ina moved to Bromley Kent,Ruby to Oxford.
Further investigation proved that Captain Turner was a myth and he was born in Liverpool.
Was your mother Shirley White my cousin?
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Re: James Paterson/ Margaret Lawson
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 01 March 12 15:14 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to all for helping out  :)


Hi Alexanderina  :) Yes I am your cousins daughter and we have been in touch before! It's a small World.


Your Uncle Samuel (Paterson) had two children only, two daughter's, and one was my mother. Thanks for the information about his death. I know he remarried, settled in England and died there. I have a copy of his death certificate and so on and don't think I will find any more than I have done about him now other than searching for his Naval record.


Margaret Hunter Paterson? I'm presuming she must have been my great, great grandmother? Samuel Paterson's grandmother?


The Alexander, you mention, who inherited the house must have been James Paterson's son: James, my grandfather's only brother? The James Paterson who emigrated to Australia?


Shame about the Captain Turner information! A myth! I met Peggy, (Margaret), my grandfather's sister many, many years ago and she outlined that Captain Turner was related to Mary Turner, my grandmother.


My daughter is hoping I will get as much information as I can about my (our) maternal line. I've got loads to go on. All I have to do now is draw up a family tree to keep up with it all  ::)  :D


Once again thanks again and best wishes to all.


Patty




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Re: James Paterson/ Margaret Lawson
« Reply #21 on: Friday 02 March 12 02:16 GMT (UK) »
Alexanderina


Still thinking about Captain Turner / Mary Turner (or her husband / Turner).


Captain Turner was born in Liverpool but his background was Irish as was Mary Turner's husband.


My great Aunt Peggy (Margaret Paterson) Russell - your aunt, Bute Scotland said, was adamant, that there was a connection between Captain Turner and Mercedes Desmore and her mother, Mary Turner (Paterson).


You say this myth has been dismissed. Do you have any data you could forward to me that could help / prove it hit an end point. If so I would really appreciate it.


I don't want to continue researching this area that is Captain Turner or his niece, the actress Mercedes Desmore, if it is an absolute waste of time.


Need your help here.


Also wondering about the family house (Victorian mansion I thought / saw) you say was left to James Paterson's son. I heard, from you previously, he and his mother came back to Scotland from Australia in the late 40's and left with nothing. I'm gobsmacked now! Totally lost!


To my mind the old aunties who owned the house died after James (late 40's) but before my grandfather (1953). This would seem to indicate my grandfather / his male heirs would inherit. 


Alexanderina you say that Alexander, James's son, came home from Australia and sold it off in the 70's but it had been lying empty from the early 1950's and in such disrepair, until recently late 2010 when I last saw it, that there were warning / danger signs around the house. It was totally delapidated. I can't understand why a house James son sold in the 70's had lain empty for nearly 60 + years -  40 years plus from his sale of the house. He sold it 40 + years ago but no-one moved in. Strange to say the least. The bottom line is that this mansion, sale or not, had lain empty since the early 1950's. It's a real mystery.


I hope we make contact with Uncle James relatives, in Australia, to make sense of it all.


Regards.


Patty




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Re: James Paterson/ Margaret Lawson
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 03 March 12 03:18 GMT (UK) »
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There was no mansion,only a Paterson family house in Cambuslang in the outskirts of Glasgow which was owned by my Great Gran Margaret Hunter Paterson who died there in 1934,also living there were her son Alexander kia 1917 and her daughters Margaret,Jessie and Isabella who were all spinsters.Isabella was the last to die in 1978 and the house reverted to the oldest male Paterson who was Alexander in Australia
Alexanderina

Patsy I have been following this thread with interest and  was going to comment yesterday but I see you have now modified your post and removed some of the content :)

I wondered if you had missed the information on Alexanderina's post that the last of the spinsters, Isabella didn't die until 1978 which is 25 years after your the death of your grandfather in 1953.

Have you considered searching google maps streetview to see what has happened to the property in 2012?  All sorts of reasons why properties remain derelict for many years including issues with development applications with local authorities.

Cheers  :)
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Re: James Paterson/ Margaret Lawson
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 03 March 12 04:17 GMT (UK) »
Just wondering.... I have an Alexander paterson married to an Elizabeth Turner he from newton Stewart,Scotland. b 1827

An Alec Lindley Paterson(Grandson) was born in Driffield,Yorkshire and died in Murchison ,Victoria...Just thought it might be a small world and they all be related...this family having joined yours in Victoria...?? any similarities?
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Re: James Paterson/ Margaret Lawson
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 03 March 12 04:19 GMT (UK) »
oopsy.. dates: b 1887 d 1970. Alec's Parents were Samuel Paterson and Margaret King (b 1856)