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Confused
« on: Thursday 23 February 12 05:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Can some one please help me find my 3 times great grandmother Bridget Whelan. I have been looking for her for 16 years, this what I know already:
Bridget Brennan married Patrick Joyce in 1840 in Co.Mayo, Ireland. Three months later they sailed for South Australia.and settle in Kapunda, they had 5 children. Then tragedy struck, Patrick was kill in a cart accident in 1852.
Six months later Bridget Joyce married John Whelan and had 3 sons (only 1 survived) Hugh Whelan. John Whelan drowned in 1856. On 27th May 1863 Bridget married a Samuel Heigh, this is were I'm not sure if I have the right marriage.Bridget died in 1864 and Samuel died in 1897. I cannot afford certificates.
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Re: Confused
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 23 February 12 07:30 GMT (UK) »
On 27th May 1863 Bridget married a Samuel Heigh, this is were I'm not sure if I have the right marriage.
Appreciate any help and advise

I don't think the 1863 marriage would be your Bridget as she is listed as 28yo, single & her fathers name given as Michael WHELAN.

HEIGH Samuel age 28yrs m. WHELAN Bridget age 28yrs, single, 27/05/1863
Place: St Patrick Adelaide; District: Ade; Symbol: V; Book/Page: 54/228
Groom's Father: Mathew HEIGH
Bride's Father: Michael WHELAN

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Re: Confused
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 23 February 12 08:52 GMT (UK) »
Do you have any more information about Hugh WHELAN? Birth, Death, where he lived etc. It might give us some idea about his mum Bridget.
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Re: Confused
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 23 February 12 12:20 GMT (UK) »
This could be Hugh Whelan's death

Name:   Hughie Whelan
Death Date:   31 Jul 1909
Death Place:   Adelaide
Age:   53
Residence Place:   Adelaide
Registration Place:   Adelaide, South Australia
Page Number:   321
Volume Number:   342
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1856


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Re: Confused
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 23 February 12 12:24 GMT (UK) »
Hugh's obit doesn't mention any family but his wife unfortunately.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/56727132

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Re: Confused
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 23 February 12 23:25 GMT (UK) »
You have given a death date for Bridget as 1863.  As it seems that the marriage to Samuel HEIGH may not be your Bridget, is the death date based on  her having the surname HEIGH?  Sorry not very well explained; hope you know what I mean!

Do you have the names of her JOYCE children? Again, it may help.

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Re: Confused
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 February 12 01:42 GMT (UK) »
I like to thank each of you for answering my query about my 3 times great grandmother Bridget Whelan. I now know that Samuel Heigh did not married my Bridget.
Some of you want the names of the children, here goes.
Mary Ann Joyce (b) 1841/42 (my line)Patrick (b)1845 John (b)
1845 (d)1846 Michael (b)1846 Catherine Martha (b)1850 John Henry (b)1851.Patrick the father died 1852,Bridget married John Whelan 12/7/52 at Kapunda.The Whelan children are Thomas (b)
1854 (d)1856 Hugh (b)1856
John the father died 1856 and this is were I have lost the trail for Bridget.
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Re: Confused
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 February 12 06:43 GMT (UK) »
Not helping you find Bridget but thought these interesting - snippets re death of Patrick JOYCE (which you may already have anyway)

Appeal for funds for his widow
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/38461389

Somewhat gruesome account of the inquest
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/38461166

Another near accident in the same coach
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/38454796

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Re: Confused
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 26 February 12 02:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Regarding Hugh Whelan, I was told many years ago that his wife was Bridget. I never found his marriage But after reading his OB I found that h is wife was Rachel Kierney. I found his marriage in 1877 with the BDM now on line. They never had any children.
Also in his OB was were they lived: The Seven-Stan Hotel in Aneas Street,Hnsine (abb.) This seemed strange?
By the way the 2 daughters went to New Zealand to live, Mary Ann married Austin O'Loughlin November 1858 in Kapunda had a son John in Turo, another son Martin in Ballarat, Vic. the third son Thomas was born in Dunedin, New Zealand.