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Offline nudge67

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What happened to William MILLS in SA?
« on: Wednesday 22 February 12 09:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi all. My 3G-Grandmother, Silvestra FLOATE, came to South Oz in Jan 1839 with her husband William MILLS, and children John and Amy. We thought William died soon after, and that she married Charles STEPHENS at Cowdilla, SA, around 1840. He died in 1849, and she then married James De VINE in Adelaide on 24/7/1854.

But an article in the SA Register on 23 May 1846 reporting on a casein the Police Commissioner's Court, involving her and Charles STEPHENS:
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In cross-examination, Mr Poulden elicited that the battle was rather "of the kind called royal;" also that the firm of ' Stevens and Float" consisted of a man and a woman. Witness could not say whether they were man and wife. Sylvester Float, who described herself as the wife of William Mills, a person of whose residence she was ignorant, confirmed the evidence of the complainant.

Was William MILLS still alive in 1846? and dead by 1854? Were Silvestra and Charles STEPHENS actually married? Can anyone solve this mystery? Any BDM's would be helpful.

Cheers
Nudge
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NSW Convict 1836: Peter WIFFIN (alias VIVIAN)
VDL Convict 1841: Richard REES
SA Pioneers (<1847): Hornsby, Wallis, Willoughby, Floate, Mills, Chesson, Degenhardt.
SA Old Colonists (<1857): Messenger, Tyler, McFeat, Ladner, Edwards, Cassidy, Rhodes, Shaw, Waye, Sibly.
SA Colonists (<1901): Jones, Pike, Bowyer, Davey.

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Re: What happened to William MILLS in SA?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 February 12 10:11 GMT (UK) »
Only marriage I can see is the Devine marriage....

James DEVINE aged 51 and single married Silvester FLOATE aged 44 and widowed on 24th July 1854 at St John, Adelaide.
Ref = Ade 21/269


But there is this birth.....

Thomas Knox STEVENS born 7th June 1849 to Charles STEVENS & Sylvestra FLOAT at Hindmarsh
Ref = Ade  2/154



Dee   :)
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: What happened to William MILLS in SA?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 22 February 12 10:24 GMT (UK) »
There was a William MILLS on the 1841 S A Census....no one else listed with him.


Dee   :)
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: What happened to William MILLS in SA?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 February 12 10:49 GMT (UK) »
thanks dee  :)
NSW Convict 1836: Peter WIFFIN (alias VIVIAN)
VDL Convict 1841: Richard REES
SA Pioneers (<1847): Hornsby, Wallis, Willoughby, Floate, Mills, Chesson, Degenhardt.
SA Old Colonists (<1857): Messenger, Tyler, McFeat, Ladner, Edwards, Cassidy, Rhodes, Shaw, Waye, Sibly.
SA Colonists (<1901): Jones, Pike, Bowyer, Davey.


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Re: What happened to William MILLS in SA?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 February 12 10:49 GMT (UK) »
There's also this .....
Baptism at Holy Trinity Church of Charles STEPHENS, son of Charles STEPHENS and Sylverster FLOATE on 22 Nov 1840.
Birthdate = 20 Oct 1840

None of this is helping to answer your questions though.   :-\


Dee   :)


Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: What happened to William MILLS in SA?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 February 12 10:52 GMT (UK) »
Another one.....different spelling....

Elizabeth Mary Ann STEVENS born 7th Feb 1847 at Hindmarsh to Charles STEVENS & Silvester FLOAT
Ref = Ade 1/199


Dee   :)
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: What happened to William MILLS in SA?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 January 13 07:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nudge,  I am a descendant of William Mills and Sylvester Float.  Their daughter Amy married Thomas Messenger who was born 11 August 1831.  I am trying to find Thomas's parents. Can you help?

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Re: What happened to William MILLS in SA?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 January 13 08:47 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps you have the following from BISA.  This is an excellent resource but is far from 100% accurate as there are many omissions and errors.

The only Thomas I can find is this one arriving in 1848.

MESSENGER Thomas arrived in SA 23 Mar 1848 aboard DAVID MALCOLM from London 
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1848DavidMalcolm.htm

MESSENGER Thomas born 11 Aug 1831 ENG and died 22 Feb 1910 Alberton SA and is buried at Cheltenham Cemetery.
Arrived 1839
Occupation Dair Farmer
Lived Kilkenny, Two Wells, Findon and Alberton.
Religion Church of England
Married 1 Mar 1851 Adelaide SA Amy nee MILLS Parents William and Sylvester Nee FLOATE[E] born 7 Dec 1834 Ashford KEN ENG who died 22 Apr 1912 Adelaide SA
Children  Thomas died as infant, William 185?-, George 1855-WA, John 1858-, Jesse 1860-, Matilda STOCK 1862-1891, Alice SHAW 1864-19?, Ada Eva FRASER 18?-Vic, twin, Eva Ada SANDFEED 18?-WA, twin, Bristow Albert 1869-1947, Emily Edith TRIGG 1872-, Amy BRADLEY 187?-, Alfred.

You will need to search for a parish baptism or locate him on the 1841 census.

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Re: What happened to William MILLS in SA?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 January 13 09:03 GMT (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sp4/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sp2/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sp3/
Frederick in a spot of trouble in Alice Springs in 1951

And again in 1953
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sp5/


His arrival
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0spi/

Possibly Thomas building roads
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0spj/

Thomas in a spot of bother
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0spk/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0spl/
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0spm/

His death notice indicates an arrival c1848.

The Chronicle  26 Feb 1910
Deaths
MESSENGER— On the 22nd February, at Alberton, Thomas Messenger (suddenly of heart failure), aged 79 years, leaving a widow, 5 sons, 5 daughters, 51 grandchildren, 9 great grandchildren. Colonist of 62 years.  Late of Woodvillle and Two Wells.

Cando

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