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Re: Army/Equine meeting photo for identification
« Reply #36 on: Monday 05 March 12 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Doesn't look to me like Bertie.


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Re: Army/Equine meeting photo for identification
« Reply #37 on: Monday 05 March 12 23:54 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Army/Equine meeting photo for identification
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 01:30 GMT (UK) »
Her left arm is behind hold some sort of stick or rail

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Re: Army/Equine meeting photo for identification
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 02:10 GMT (UK) »
Good morning,

One of the unidentified officers is possibly the dukes equerry who would have gone where ever the duke went. Eric Henry Bonham 3rd Bt was equerry but I can't find what date up to.

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Re: Army/Equine meeting photo for identification
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 08:35 GMT (UK) »
James Stuart, Earl of Findhorn up until 1922/1923 was Duke of York's equerry.
He was about 23 yrs old at the time so I don't think any of those officers were equerries.
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Re: Army/Equine meeting photo for identification
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 10:28 GMT (UK) »
Good morning,

That is true but the Duke of York is not in this picture! Major Bonham was in the Scots Guards, Duke of Connaught was colonel of the Scots Guards until 1908. A great many equerries were and are older than 23 and are usually drawn from a regt of which the personage is or has been the Colonel.

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Re: Army/Equine meeting photo for identification
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 06 March 12 15:22 GMT (UK) »
Good morning,

One of the unidentified officers is possibly the dukes equerry who would have gone where ever the duke went. Eric Henry Bonham 3rd Bt was equerry but I can't find what date up to.

John915

From the London Gazette:

   Prince Arthur of Connaught has been pleased
to appoint Major John Lamplugh Wickham,
Reserve of Officers, Scots Guards, to be
Equerry to His Royal Highness in the room of
Major Eric Henry Bonham, M.V.O., resigned.
   Prince Arthur of Connaught has been pleased
to appoint Major Eric Henry Bonham, M.V.O.,
lately Comptroller and Equerry to His Royal
Highness, to be an Extra Equerry.
   These appointments to date from the 1st
July 1926


So there we have it: he would have been equerry in 1922 and so we would expect him to be present. I haven't found an image of him en regalia but will attach an image from the National Gallery taken 1928 - he certainly looks like front row 2nd from left (#24).

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Re: Army meeting photo for identification
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 22 March 12 14:22 GMT (UK) »
The man on the front row second from the right as you look at it looks like Rudyard Kipling


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Well James, thanks for your help right at the beginning! You will see that gradually the identity of many other people present have been revealed... but we still don't know for sure where and what the event was, though we know it was taken between June 22 and July 7, most likely the weekend of July 1st/2nd.

Back to Rudyard: he was a major freemason, as were all the the men so far identified in the group: indeed the Duke of Connaught was a grand master. Lots of the people in the photo worked on the Imperial War Graves Commission, as did Kipling. He founded "The Builders of the Silent Cities Lodge No 12" in St Omer, France, in January 1922, a condition of membership being a connection with the IWGC.

I know very little about the freemasons, especially where to find archives: but perhaps they organised an equestrian event, followed by a lodge lunch?

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Re: Army/Equine meeting photo for identification
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 22 March 12 15:58 GMT (UK) »
Paddy, can you identify #21's cap badge on the original?
Look's a bit Royal Berks-ish to me. If so, then I'd hazard the man could be Lt.-Col. Herbert Thomas "Tom" Goodland, 5th Bn Royal Berkshire Regiment and, from 1919 to 1928, Deputy Controller of the Imperial War Graves Commission.
Pre-WW1: http://www.chilliwackmuseum.ca/War_Mem_ss2.html
Post-WW1: http://www.thewardrobe.org.uk/research/the-collection/detail/21829

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