Author Topic: Twitcher Clough,Bingley, W.Yorks  (Read 9940 times)

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Re: Twitcher Clough,Bingley, W.Yorks
« Reply #18 on: Friday 24 February 12 17:32 GMT (UK) »
Deleted my message as lots more post were put on whilst
i was typing lol.

p.s. My neice lives in Bingley lol

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Re: Twitcher Clough,Bingley, W.Yorks
« Reply #19 on: Friday 24 February 12 18:19 GMT (UK) »
I found this some time ago whilst surfing for information about Toll Gates, it clarifies the position of the Oldfield Pitcher Clough.

'If the gate were positioned on the Stanbury side, traffic from Keighley to Colne would be able to evade payment. If the gate were on the Colne side, traffic from Haworth and Stanbury to Keighley could avoid tolls by using the track through Pitcher Clough and Oldfield which rejoined the Harehill road at Pickles Hill.'

Note that from Dobfarm's information the location above at Stanbury / Haworth / Keighley seems unlikely.

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I never said it was above Stanbury / Haworth / Keighley  -

I said it was at Harden Beck at Cat stones hill and ring above Bingley.

After speaking to a friend who thinks it is most likely the dwelling at Twitchier Clough under Hewenden Reservoir below Goit Water falls. The Dam/Reservoir was on the 1852 maps and would answer why the 'Twitchers clough' disappeared from the Bingley PR's 19th century. But locals still call the valley Twitchier
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Re: Twitcher Clough,Bingley, W.Yorks
« Reply #20 on: Friday 24 February 12 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Joseph Wright bapt 1762
David Wright bapt  1768

Agnes Wright (Mother of above) death/burial 1775
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Re: Twitcher Clough,Bingley, W.Yorks
« Reply #21 on: Friday 24 February 12 19:20 GMT (UK) »
You misunderstood me Dobbie, I am agreeing with your information and pointing out that the Oldfield suggestion by kmart66 and sallyyorks is unlikely, however, the pinning down of the where-a-bouts of Pitchers Clough, Oldfield might help them with their research.

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Re: Twitcher Clough,Bingley, W.Yorks
« Reply #22 on: Friday 24 February 12 22:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dave,

Sorry ! had mis-read your post  :-[

There is conjecture of proposition! that is unproven but is thought could be true and has not been disproven!! that Pitcher clough was the Twitcher Clough. This base was that two branches of Wrights family married in Bingley 1761. Agnes Wright bapt 1736 in Denholme in Thornton parish register being not that far from this Pitchers clough. Its not always the case that the abode has to be in the parish of worthship or Bingley used for major family events. If David and Agnes went to live near her family domain but used David Wright's parish of Bingley church for these family events.

My scenario is unproven of Harden for Twitcher clough but logical.

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Re: Twitcher Clough,Bingley, W.Yorks
« Reply #23 on: Friday 24 February 12 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Wasn't Harden within the Parish of Bingley ?
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Re: Twitcher Clough,Bingley, W.Yorks
« Reply #24 on: Friday 24 February 12 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dave

Harden was in Bingley mother parish-Yes.
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Re: Twitcher Clough,Bingley, W.Yorks
« Reply #25 on: Friday 24 February 12 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

There is another little clue. Agnes Wright buried 1775  Poor. In those days the parish of birth was important as poor means relief paid by the overseer by the fathers parish- (Being maybe David's parish of birth Bingley and not Agnes's parish Thornton or where they lived if at Pitchers Clough in Keighley Parish). This would explain why the siblings of David were baptised in Bingley Parish and not Keighley.
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Re: Twitcher Clough,Bingley, W.Yorks
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 25 February 12 01:15 GMT (UK) »
Joining late in this topic and having a little experience at birdwatching I think it is probably called 'Twitcher clough' and my reason for this that the mapsite shown on dobbie's reply (15) clearly  shows a clough (ravine or cleft) which is heavily wooded and perhaps a haven for birds.
Birdwatchers and Twitchers have differing protocols toward their study of birds.
Just a thought,
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