birth of john henry gill

[bozzwell]

i would like to know who the parents of john henry gill born 1888 i think).he was born in douglas isle of man and 1n the 1911 census was living at 5,fairy ground. i think his wife was agnes (no surname)
i would appreciate any help. thank you.

[KGarrad]

Think this is him in 1901?

Reference RG13, Piece 5305, Folio 86, Page 8
30 Barrack Street, Onchan

Gill, Norman W  Head  M  45  Corporation Labourer  b Douglas
Gll, Elizabeth A  Wife  F  44  b England
Gill, Norman T  Son  M  15  Newsboy  b Douglas
Gill, John H  Son  M  13  Newsboy  b Douglas
Gill, Elizabeth J  Daughter  F  11  b Douglas
Gill, Sarah J  Daughter  F  9  b Douglas
Gill, Rachel  Daughter  F  8  b Douglas
Gill, Douglas  Son  M  1  b Douglas

[bozzwell]

Thank you Mr Garrad for the info you gave me so promptly. It confirms what I also have found.Do you know what his wife Agnes's m/s was?
Thank you

[KGarrad]

Looking at Lawson's BMD site http://www.iomfhs.im/lawsons/LawsonBMD/Main_Site_index.html

Marriage 28th June 1908 at St George, Douglas
Gill, John Henry
Holmes, Agnes

Volume D, Page 381b


A quick (very quick!) search of Lawsons Births, finds this:
12th May 1899
Douglas Gill  son of Norman Gill and Elizabeth Ann Foster

So now you have John's mother's maiden name, too!

[KGarrad]

Other children of Norman Gill and Elizabeth Foster:

9th May 1883, Agnes
30th April 1881, Edith
21st March 1879, Elizabeth Fanny
21st July 1889, Elizabeth Annie
12th May 1885, Norman Thomas
12th March 1893, Rachel
27th September 1891, Sarah Jane
27th October 1897, Walter Daniel (died 12th August 1899)

[Frances_mnb]

Norman Gale age 25 a Tobacco spinner is at 18 Fort St in 1881 with wife + 2 ch
in 1861 entered as Noman William - the william from his fa's name
in 1861 Agnes born Lenark [?lanark] Scotland - appears to be a widow as head of household at 23 Shaws brow
in 1851 newly married Wm Gale (born Marown) age 29  a shoemaker at 58 Sand st (today Strand street - main shopping st in Douglas)

it is possible that Wm was bapt Andrew Wm Gale/Gill s/o Wm Gale/Gill + Elizth Clucas Marown 18211021

[bozzwell]

Thank you very much indeed Mr Garrad. You have given me such a lot of information and I appreciate it very much.
I will look at the lawsons BMD ( now that you have mentioned it) to see if I can find  John Henry Gills wife and children. Thanks again for your help.

[bozzwell]

Thank you Frances very much for your help. It's marvelous how you and Mr Garrad found all that information. I do appreciate all your help. Thanks again.

[Frances_mnb]

Agnes is I think d/o John Templeton + Marion Crawford - both scots born Farm steward at ballagarey farm house Marown in 1841(judging by age of ch only arrived in IoM  between 1835 and 1839  - Agnes m Wm Gill Braddan 1849-06-23