Newman/Watson Family

[karenlee]

Hey Keyboard and Ian

One would think that John's mother might well have been a THOMPSON at some point given that he has that name.  Could well be that Mary THOMPSON married ROUTLEDGE then NEWMAN??

[fred21]

Thanks so much everyone for all your information.  Mary Thompson/Routledge always did confuse me - never thought that it meant she might of been married before or that her mother had remarried!  It has given me something to think about.

[fred21]

Well it looks like I may of solved some of the mystery surrounding the confusion with the Routledge/Thompson connection.

Mary was born Mary Routledge 1 Aug 1802, Barnard Castle, Durham to a Margaret Routledge no father mentioned.

The mother (Margaret) later on married a John Thompson 28 Jan 1809 Brampton, Cumberland.

This explains why on the census and marriage details for Mary and her husband John Newman that Mary is down as Mary Routledge but her mother is down as Margaret Thompson (mother-in-law).

I think it is also possible that John Thompson may of been Mary's father as she used this name as a middle name for her son Robert and the Thompson appears in the family several times as a middle name.

There are unfortunately several contenders for Margaret Routledge's birth but hopefully I will be able to trace the correct one.  John Thompson will be alot harder to trace but without knowing for sure if he was Mary's father I possibly can leave him for now.

Still no joy on finding John Newman born c1801 in Lynn, Norfolk (occupation Master Mariner). 

If anyone has any ideas on how to trace him it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks everyone for the help so far it really helped me to think outside of the box and solve the riddle of Routledge/Thompson.

[Dochonneybunch]

Hi, I've done a bit of research on The Newman family, and they married into the Honneyman family; Edward Forster Honneyman married Mary Jane Newman the Daughter of Robert Thompson Newman, they emigrated to Massachusetts around 1896 and lived (almost) happily ever after.
   They left a lot of Descendants over there.
   One of them, Victor Edward Newman Honneyman lived to be 103. He was my Grand-dads' Cousin.

[ealdred]

sne31 said (in the Bambrough thread/topic at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=581065.9 ) :

"Your great grandmother was the daughter of John Robert Newman who was the son of Robert Thompson Newman whose father was John Newman and it all goes back apparently at this time to 1797 when Robert Thompson was born. That is really on your great grandmater's side so it may not be of interest to you if you are following the blood line of the Bambroughs. .... My sister lives in Auckland and will look through old papers and maybe come up with something else. Your great grandmother's sister 'Hettie' married a Kit Thirkell who lived in Horden in the 60's so maybe there maybe someone in that family who has more information on your family."

Two questions:

1. I can't find any Robert Thompson born 1797 in web/net & myheritage etc searchs, and/or how he ties in with the Newman/Thompson line? John Thompson married in 1809, is it his brother perhaps?
Is it this Rob Thompson http://ghgraham.org/robertthompson1797.html ?

2. Does Hettie/Nettie stand for Henriette or Henrietta or Harriet or Harriette?

Also a question from the first  two pages here:

3. Also in Fred's original post he said John Thompson Newman b1860 while later posts said for the same person in the same generation place Robert Thompson Newman b 1829. I assume John Thompson Newman was a mistake as RTN seems correct according to all the later posts and other sites i found? Does JTN fit in somewhere else though (perhaps confusion with john robert newman b1862?)?

[ealdred]

Apparently it is Ethel (Ettie) Newman/Thirkell, not Hettie/Nettie [Henrietta/Henriette/Harriet/Harriette] Newman/Thirkell.

Sean B.