Catholic Marriage Record Initials

[muckjack]

Hi all,

I have a marriage record for a couple from 1844 with the following initials beside it T.V.
I've had a bit of a search for the meaning but haven't found anything. Also on a baptismal record for one of their sons it has the following initials n.p. t.v.

I'm hoping someone might know what they mean.

[myluck!]

I've seen NP on a marriage cert and I was told it meant Nisi Prisus which translates as "No protest"
Can't see why it would be on a baptismal certificate

[muckjack]

Hi myluck,

I had figured that the n.p. probably meant note parents/note parentis or something similar followed by the t.v. from the marriage record again. The records are in english but the abbreviations used were likely to have been latin.

[Sinann]

This might be worth linking to the Deciphering and Recognition forum, people there know a lot of this kind of stuff.

[eadaoin]

if the marriage was in Lent or Advent, T.V. might mean "in vetito tempore" .. in forbidden time.

eadaoin

[muckjack]

The marriage took place on the 4th December 1844 but thanks for the suggestion Eadaoin. I'm thinking the T is probably testes abbreviated, the latin for witness. It's all guess work though.

[shanew147]

related thread on Deciphering & Recognition Help : link

[myluck!]

eadaoin maybe correct as Dec 4 would have been within advent

[muckjack]

Eadaoin and myluck good call, it was against canon law at the time to be married during Advent and Lent. I knew about Lent, it seems to be why February was such a popular month to get married in, but I wasn't aware it applied to Advent as well.

They must have been in a rush to get married. The baptism record for their first son isn't available, no baptism records for those years, so I cant fully claim my first shot-gun.

I still have to upload a scan of the register for the other thread. I need to get on that and I'm still confused about the n.p. t.v. beside the baptism for another son born in 1861.