Patrick Smith of Meath Street south dublin...mother's maiden name

[Brennan04]

OK.  My grandfather had one of the most common names in Ireland...Patrick Smith.  We have some information on him but wanted to see if anyone could help me a little bit more.  This is his family in the 1901 census:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Merchants_Quay/Meath_Street/1299523/.

So I know he was born around 1895.  He died around 1959 in Dublin.  His middle name was Augustin/Augustine.  He married Kathleen (Kate, Catherine) Pelly in 1934 (I have the m/c but it only gives his fathers name which was also Patrick).

I am trying to locate his mother's maiden name in hopes to go back a little farther.  I have tried to find his brothers/sisters on familysearch.org but cannot come up with anything concrete enough to say that this is his relation.  I am hoping to eventually get some of his records but his mother's maiden name is almost a necessity :0(

You guys were wonderful in helping me with my grandmothers side and I am still finding more and more out about her side from all the great info you guys gave me and am hoping you can help me with this rather tough one:0)

I also know that he was married before my grandmother but his first wife passed away.  Not even sure of her name.  He lived in Crumlin when he passed away.
Trying to give out as much info as I have.

Thank you for any info you can give me!!


Catrina

[Brennan04]

Side note....Julia would of passed away sometime between 1906 and 1911 as she was not in the 1911 census.  She was born around 1869.

[shanew147]

You may have to try a few certs for possible births from the BMD Index to try to find a match that way. The area they are living is in the registration district on Dublin South - which might cut down the possibilities...

I presume this is the family in 1911 :

  Smith household - Meath St

It's also worth searching the Dublin city parish records on www.irishgenealogy.ie


Shane

[shanew147]

I'm not seeing any good birth matches for the two younger girls, and too many for Patrick, but there are just a few for Henry....assuming they lived in the same area at the time of his birth..

  Name: Henry Smith
  Registration district: Dublin South
  Event type: Birth
  Quarter and year: Oct-Dec 1893
  Volume: 2 / Page: 535

  Name: Henry Dare Smith
  Registration district: Dublin South
  Event type: Birth
  Quarter and year: Apr - Jun 1891
  Volume: 2 / Page: 623
   
  Name: Henry Lewis Smyth
  Registration district: Dublin South
  Event type: Birth
  Quarter and year: Oct-Dec 1892
  Volume: 2 / Page: 505

Due to the middle name and spelling, the second two can probably be put to one side for the moment - but the first one might be worth trying to see if the mother's name is Julia...

see : link (FamilySearch)

the BMD Index also includes a possible match for Julia's death :
see : Julia Smith, Jul/Sept 1908


Shane

[Brennan04]

Thank you!  I knew this was going to be hard. Question also....my g-parents lived in inchicore on Keogh square and got married in st michaels church. Is there anyway to get info from this information?  Just want to make sure I'm doing everything I can.

Thanks!

[Taidquest]

Just in case you have'nt seen this for St Michael's,there are
 some photos of the interior of the church ,I was baptised in this church.
Keogh square was later called St Michaels estate.
                                                                                        Anne
http://www.oblateparishesindublin.ie/St_Michaels/history.htm

[Brennan04]

It's beautiful!!!  Thank you for the site!!

[eadaoin]

So I know he was born around 1895.  He died around 1959 in Dublin.  His middle name was Augustin/Augustine.  He married Kathleen (Kate, Catherine) Pelly in 1934 (I have the m/c but it only gives his fathers name which was also Patrick).

I am trying to locate his mother's maiden name

I've rung the Parish Office in various RC parishes and asked for a church marriage cert - you need to tell them that you only want it if it gives the mother's name.

eadaoin

[Brennan04]

I have a copy from the GRO but it doesn't have the maiden name on it.  Do you think the church would have different info?  Since I have the date and names, it shouldn't be too difficult to look up, right?

Thank you!!!