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WW1 uniform & death help
« on: Monday 13 February 12 14:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi I recently found out that my great uncle was shot in either France or Belgium in WW1 - unfortunately so far I haven't been able to find him on the CWGC or any medal index card or service record.

His name was Charles Harold Ward and he was born in West Ham on 8th October 1896 and his parents were Charles Ward (died 1905) and Clara Ward (second married name Driscoll).  His step father James Mathias Driscoll served with the grenadier guards and I have one very poor photo?

Can anyone help?



I just cannot seem to find anything that might help

His last known address was 201 vicarage lane, forest gate london

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Re: WW1 uniform & death help
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 February 12 15:24 GMT (UK) »
I'm sorry to say there is no clue [for me at least] on the photo - no badges for regiment or rank.
When you say 'shot', I presume you mean that he died of wounds or was killed in action.  He may be listed by CWGC with only one initial.  I did see an entry on CWGC for a C. Herbert Ward, Grenadier Guards, but that might be a shot in the dark.
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Re: WW1 uniform & death help
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 February 12 15:46 GMT (UK) »
Very difficult...Could be known as Charles or Harry Ward or Driscoll??
Have looked on Soldiers Died In Great War Database and theres none with direct links to West Ham there are similar names to London area lads but nothing that stands out.
Local papers may have that photo as an obituary so you could marry it up but thats gonna be time consuming if you have access to the local papers for a start.
The Grenadier is from Norwich.
Theres one possibility that there MAY be info on his step dads record(Guards ones didnt get destroyed in WW2) However it would cost £30 to get and may not be anymore info.

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Re: WW1 uniform & death help
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 February 12 16:30 GMT (UK) »
Thanks ainslie too much of a long shot I fear

Hi ady I looked at the Herbert one but it doesn't look like him

I wonder if maybe he was wounded and maybe died back home?  Might need to check out that route

Thanks for your help

Steven


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Re: WW1 uniform & death help
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 February 12 23:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Steven there is a ward on the cwgc site that might be worth a look at.

WARD, C H
Rank: Private
Service No: 515241
Date of Death: 16/08/1917
Regiment/Service: London Regiment (London Scottish) 14th Bn.
Grave Reference  I. K. 45. PERTH CEMETERY (CHINA WALL)

Could be him since he was born in West Ham. Hope this may help. Lowanslow.
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Re: WW1 uniform & death help
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 14 February 12 07:58 GMT (UK) »
Lad above was born Walton on Thames,resident Spittalfields

Source: Soldiers died in great war

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 14 February 12 09:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks lowanslow and ady alreday checked that one out and as ady says its not him but thanks for looking.

I have another but no way of checking if its him

This is the one remaining with info from his medal card & the CWGC site, although that site gives his number as 4752 but it is the same person.

47502/74231 Charles Ward died 21/12/1918 The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment) 16th Labour Coy. transf. to 124th Coy. Labour Corps
Victory Medal LC/101 B45 page 4537
British Medal “ “
Grave ref: I.B.2 DON COMMUNAL CEMETERY,ANNOEULLIN,NORD,FRANCE

Any ideas ady?

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Re: WW1 uniform & death help
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 14 February 12 09:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Steven
Unfortunately no details on Soldiers Died database...at that stage hes not going to be killed in action would be wounds,illness or accident.

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Re: WW1 uniform & death help
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 14 February 12 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks ainslie too much of a long shot I fear

Hi ady I looked at the Herbert one but it doesn't look like him

I wonder if maybe he was wounded and maybe died back home?  Might need to check out that route

Thanks for your help

Steven
Hi What is the Electoral Borough for his last known address the are a lot of Charles Harold Ward's on the London Electoral Register's
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich