Looking for birth / marriage of John William LAWRENCE bc1889?

[arno]

I have the birth of a Helana Francis Watson LAWRENCE 18th Oct  1914 Reg in Wakefield, YKS to parents John William Victor LAWRENCE and Florence JACKSON.

Trying to find their marriage and when and where etc John was born?

I have John William LAWRENCE'S death cert  June 1953 aged 65, reg in Derby.

Also his 2nd marriage cert to Isabella KEY in Mar 1925 at Basford, NTT / DBY as a widower aged 34 with father as Matthew - deceased.

Any assistance will much appreciated.

Regards Arno

[charlotteCH]

On the census where does John say he was born?

In 1911 census is John married?  If not, then maybe the marriage was between 1911 and 1914.

charlotte

[tina morana]

He was 34 yrs old when he remaried in 1925, his birth year would be 1891 yes?
Thank you

Tinam

[arno]

Hi Charlotte

Sorry.

I have not found John on any Census - lots of possibilities??

I have found his future wife Florence JACKSON aged26, single,
 born Long Eaton, DBY living with her sisters Maud and Annie
 and mother Mary Ann, nee ATKINS aged 55 on the 1911 Census
living at 339 Nottingham Road, Derby.

 Missing husband is Alfred JACKSON b1855 in Stapleford, NTT

 Have found this family on 1881, 91 and 1901 census.

Regards Arno

[arno]

Hi Tinam

Approx??  Based on death cert he was born 1887/8??

Birth could be anywhere from 1887 - 1892, I think ??

Regards Arno

[mosiefish]

Hi,

What was John`s occupation on Florences birth certificate?

Mo

[Marmaduke 123]

Derby seems to feature strongly. There is a John William Lawrence birth registration in Derby RD Jul/Sep 1887 - Derby 7b 547.

Is that your tree on Ancestry? I see there is a birth date for John which would fit with the birth registration above

Anne

[arno]

Hi Mosiefish

I don't have Florences birth cert?

Johns occupation on his marriage cert in 1925 is a BOOT REPAIRER and his father Matthew was a FARMER.

Regards Arno

[arno]

Hi Anne

Yes, my tree is on Ancestry

and John William LAWRENCE's  birthday was on 25th August.

Could be the right cert in 1887?  - the only way to confirm his fathers name??

if correct where is his family on the 1891 Census with father Matthew??

Thamks Arno