Death cert. for a drowning

[franh1946]

Slightly off topic, but the Rocks office is to be closed in June this year.

[alison2763]

Hello,
I have also checked the Marine Deaths- just on the off chance. It is not listed there either 

Regards
Alison

[andycand]

Hi

Looking at the newspapers it would appear that the Pilot Board held an inquiry about the tragedy within days, the Public Record Office of Victoria (PROV) might have records. Their findings would possibly be sufficient to allow his widow to remarry and I suspect there would be no actual death certificate without a body.

Andy

[Les de B]

In NSW, Death Certificates came into being 1856. Before then they were Church Records. Therefore,
pre-1856 it was actually the church record of the funeral which was document of death, and if no body, no funeral, and no record. Hence the case of my ancestor who drowned with 2 others in Sydney Harbour 1822. Detailed newspaper accounts but no bodies recovered at all and no funerals, hence all three have no official record of their death.

When was the change over from Church Records to official Registration Records in Queensland (if any), pre or post 1873?

Les

[Billyblue]

Qld BDM online says their records all go from 1829.
Queensland was part of NSW until 1859, so the changeover from church to civil records was presumably 1856, same as NSW.

Dawn M

[eregli_gene]

You'll need a seance to ask Nick Vine Hall,  regrettably.

[majm]

You'll need a seance to ask Nick Vine Hall,  regrettably.

eregli_gene,

As you were apparently posting from within Aust, ie posting in the rather early pre-dawn hours, you may have missed reading this post and several after it re NVH's passing.

Cheers,  JM

NVH died in 2006

[eregli_gene]

You are correct.    I read the first page of the thread.   The post I was responding to here,   was the last post on the first page of the thread   and I didn't not notice at the time that there were other pages.

[eregli_gene]

There is an example, here

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/28384898?searchTerm=hercules%20dalzell&searchLimits=

of an individual who drowned off the shore of New South Wales.

This Hercules Dalzell apparently has a death certificate,  its in the NSW BDM online index

Hercules Dalzell,  age 33 years, "Died off Long Reef"   4333/1881

According to the newspaper,  they retrieved the body,  so that might be the difference.