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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 19:17 GMT (UK) »
Posting the WW2 Draft for George Kenneth Oliver, hoping that the person who will always know him - Mrs William A Howe might be his daughter  ???
Resided 8238 So Campbell Avenue. Chicago. Employer. B & O CT Railroad. 1817 W  14 St Chicago. Illinois.

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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 19:21 GMT (UK) »
I found an obituary for George Kenneth Oliver, but unfortunately, no mention of parents or any siblings in it.  It says he was married to a Cora Sewell, and his daughter's name fits the one in the 1920 Census & on the WWII Draft Registration Card.  

I may be going off on a tangent, but there is a birth record for a William Russell Oliver in Iowa who seems to have similar parents to Kenneth.  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XV6P-1FJ  
A possible match for William Russell dying in Indiana:  
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VZ7P-XQ5  
In the 1900 Census, there is a Kenneth Oliver & Russel Oliver living in an orphanage in Michigan:  
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M913-11D  The birthplaces are a bit off, but the month & year of birth matches William Russell Oliver and the year matches George Kenneth Oliver above.

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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Looks like that is the daughter Mary Ellen - married to William A Howe who was the son of William H Howe born 13 th July 1875 Chicago. Illinois. Married to Margaret Ellen Delaney born  23 rd August 1876 in Chicago.  Illinois and died 22 nd November 1924.

Mary Ellen and William A Howe had a son.
 
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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 19:32 GMT (UK) »
The South Bend obituary index appears to have George Kenneth Oliver & wife's obituaries listed under Kenneth Oliver:  http://www2.sjcpl.org/obits/page_detail.php?recid=53065

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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 19:38 GMT (UK) »
Very interesting Shelly & Sandara - and thank you so much!

So many questions and my lunch break is not near long enough to accommodate them all!  ;-)  I will post more this evening when I'm home and have access to my files.  In the meantime, is it possible that Ollie/Olive Jeffries died and Charles wasn't able to cope with raising the two boys on his own and thus put them in an orphanage?  Perhaps reconnecting with Kenneth later on?

I know Charles Edwin arrived in the US in the early 1890s, so he could have met Ollie/Olive soon after arrival and fathered the two boys before Ollie/Olive (presumably) passed away.  I say presumably because the more I learn about Charles Ediwn, the less I am surprised by his less than stellar moral codes!  He was my great-great-grandfather, but - get this! - I'm decsended from his children from his first marriage in England!!  His first wife, Maria, my great-great grandmother was still alive in England until at least 1911, but I can find no record of a divorce - whoops!  It seems Charles just ran away from his life and family there, I wish I knew the circumstances of the separation.

These are all fascinating leads I am going to have to dig into.

Thank you for all your help!  I'm always amazed by the capacity of RootsChat members to help!  :-)

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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 19:55 GMT (UK) »
Looks as if George married Cora May Olson/Sewell in November 1942 Springfield, Sangamon, Illinois. Which would fit between the death of Ellen 11 April 1942 and George 2 Dec 1942.

Cora May Sewell  - Marriage Date: 12 Nov 1942
Spouse: George R Oliver -  Cook County, IL


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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 19:57 GMT (UK) »
Cora M Oliver  - Born 7 Mar 1892 Illinois
Died 16 Jan 1975 -  Los Angeles

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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 20:14 GMT (UK) »
George Kenneth Oliver and Ellen Della Enos

Burial: Park Hill Cemetery and Mausoleum  -Bloomington -McLean County
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Plot: Maus No 3rd Add, C-23 #2,3
Plot: Maus C-23,#1,3

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BULLYING is the use of force, coercion, hurtful teasing, comments, or threats, in order to abuse, aggressively dominate, or intimidate one or more others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual.

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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 20:43 GMT (UK) »
It looks like Nellie shows up on an estate index here:  http://www.ingenweb.org/inkosciusko/estateO.htm  Further information is available for a fee.

I noticed that there is a person who does look-ups for marriage application records:  http://www.ingenweb.org/inkosciusko/lookups.htm  I don't know if the marriage application gives any information that you don't already have, but I thought it may say if Charles was reporting any previous marriages.

I noticed that Charles, Nellie, and some of Nellie's family were in Detroit, Michigan in the 1910 Census.  Maybe that had something to do with Kenneth being there?  I can't find Kenneth then, but thought it was a possibility.
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