Author Topic: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee  (Read 3873 times)

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Hello,

I am attempting to research Charles Edwin Oliver and whether or not he and his wife Nellie E. Magee had any children.  The information that I have been able to find on Charles and Nellie shows that they were married in Kosciusko County, Indiana on March 24, 1906.  Furthermore, I have found the couple in the 1910, 1920 and 1930 US Federal Census, but they do have any children in these census records.  I'm curious whether or not they had children, but they did not survive.  Nellie was only 25 when they were married, although Charles was about 44.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Tam

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Re: Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 February 12 09:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tam,

Unfortunately Indiana does not have any birth records online to help you.  The 1910 Census stated Nellie had had no children but the others don't indicate anything at all.

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Re: Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 February 12 04:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again, Sandra.  Some of the information that the Warsaw Library provided indicates that the couple did have one son.  Now I'm off in search of him and any of his descendants!

Tam

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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 February 12 20:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tam,

Don't suppose they gave a name  ??? I did come across a Charles Edward Oliver born in 1917 but the Obituary named different parents, so back to the drawing board  :(

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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 February 12 21:45 GMT (UK) »
Hello Sandra,

Thank you very much for your continued help!  :-)  I really appreciate it as I'm finding absolutely no information on the son.  However, I was fortunate enough to get a name - Kenneth Oliver; but the library could not find any indication of when or where he was born, but it would seem that it wasn't in the Kosciusko area, unless he was born at home and the birth was never registered?  I do not know if Charles and Nellie may have had children other than Kenneth.

Charles Edwin died in 1933 and it turns out that he committed suicide (that was quite unexpected!).  In the two newspaper articles on Charles' death that the library provided Kenneth is mentioned as living in Chicago, so I presume he had reached adulthood and had to be, at least, 20ish years old.  The fact that Nellie was about 20 years younger than Charles does rather widen the parameters for when Kenneth could have been born.

Of course, it is possible that Kenneth was not Charles' son by birth, perhaps Nellie had a child before she married Charles?

It is quite the mystery and I would love to find out more about Kenneth; I doubt I would be lucky enough to find him still alive, but perhaps his children and grandchildren are traceable.

Thanks Sandra!

Tam

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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 18:30 GMT (UK) »
If Nellie reported having no children, the child's surname was Oliver, he wasn't living with them during any of the census records, and Nellie was probably too old to have biological children between the 1930 Census and Charles' death, it seems more likely that the child was Charles' by a prior relationship.  Perhaps we can find Charles on the 1900 Census or in a previous marriage.

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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 18:44 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if he's the right person, but this George Kenneth Oliver seems to have a father that matches your guy:  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N348-ZSV

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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 19:03 GMT (UK) »
Terrific Shelly. Anc. tree has George Kenneth married to Ellen D Enos. They show a daughter but no name unfortunately.

1920 Chicago Ward 32, Cook (Chicago), Illinois shows the family

George K Oliver 24  Ellen Oliver 22  Mary Ellen Oliver 5 months.

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Re: *COMPLETED* Birth Records for Children of Charles Edwin Oliver & Nellie Magee
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 February 12 19:14 GMT (UK) »
Ellen Della Oliver - [Ellen Della Enos] 
Born 18 Mar 1897 - Bloomington, Illinois
Died 11 Apr 1942 - Bloomington, McLean Co , Illinois. Aged 45 years. Housewife
Burial Date: 14 Apr 1942 - mBloomington, McLean Co., Illinois
Cemetery Name: Park Hill Mausolean
Father Name: Fred D. Enos - Edwardsburg, Mich. and Mother Eva Hannah Perit. Elkhart, Indiana
Spouse Name: George K. Oliver

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BULLYING is the use of force, coercion, hurtful teasing, comments, or threats, in order to abuse, aggressively dominate, or intimidate one or more others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual.

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