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Re: Defrag
« Reply #9 on: Friday 10 February 12 09:08 GMT (UK) »
Defragging might make Windows start up slightly faster, but (as PaulStaffs) said, so would newer hardware and a more modern OS.

A while ago I invested in a solid-state drive which became my C drive where (mostly) only the parts of Windows 7 reside - everything else is stored on other mechanical drives.  The increase in boot-up speed was amazing  8)
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« Reply #10 on: Friday 10 February 12 09:25 GMT (UK) »
I go along with Nick.... a separate partition or another drive to save all your stuff on helps
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« Reply #11 on: Friday 10 February 12 10:46 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your comments.  It took 9 hours but everything is running much faster now, it was processing speed I was concerned about, though I appreciate this might have something to with disc access requirements.
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Re: Defrag
« Reply #12 on: Monday 13 February 12 05:27 GMT (UK) »
After reading this thread, and not having defragged my drive (137 GB) for close to 4 years, I thought it would be a good idea. So I downloaded Defraggler and ran it (it did take hours). To start with there was about 29 GB of free space, but when it was finished there was 47 GB free space. I wasn't expecting it to clear much space, but was shocked when suddenly I had gained back 18 GB (13%). I hope it didn't delete anything important.

Is it normal for defragging to clear so much space? I thought it mainly just moved files around.


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Re: Defrag
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 14 February 12 06:22 GMT (UK) »
Defragmentation should not delete data. It merely makes files contiguous (goggle it). When a file is fragmented the computer has to read the FAT (another job for google) to discover  where the next fragment is. This involves disk head movement which slows down the disk. So having contiguous files makes head movement back to read the FAT unnecessary.

The program you used must also have a ‘disk cleanup’ element to it. I hope so anyway.

Defragmentation programs are not all the same. A commercial defragger, such as Diskeeper’ will move the data closer to the centre, which again reduces head movement. Freebies tend to leave it in random locations on the disk.

The best way to use a freebie is to defrag, then reboot, and then defrag again. This helps to shift the data together. Commercial defraggers work in the background.

If you have three disks (physical or logical) you should keep one (C: ) for programs; the second for data (say F: ); and the third (say G: ) for defragging. You then periodically copy all your data from F: to G:. Delete F:, and when you copy it back again it will automatically be in contiguous blocks.

In the two examples quoted leaving it for so long probably left the FAT itself fragmented, making the disk even slower.

Solid State Drives need a commercial defragger specifically designed for SSDs. Other defraggers will reduce their life expectancy.

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Re: Defrag
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 14 February 12 09:16 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Ken, this is pretty much what I thought, though I didn't know the specifics. I did a bit more searching and it seems like other people have been experiencing similar free space after using Defraggler, so I'm not too worried. The computer has been considerably faster since it finished defragging.

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