Perkins of Worcestershire

[Mahmayakun]

I'm the new boy on the block, dipping the proverbial big toe into the waters of Roots Chat. I'm looking for some links to complete the ascendant line of my wife's grand-maternal Perkins family. The skeleton line shown below from grandmother Annie Elizabeth Perkins to Joseph Perkins (b 1823) is well documented by me:
Annie Elizabeth Perkins b. Barnsley 1880.
Annie is daughter of,
John Perkins      &        Annie Walker(b.1859)
(b Ailey 1854, m.14.4.1879)
John is son of,
Joseph Perkins   &      Mary Ann  Millward(b. Shelsley 1830)
(b.Shelsley 1823, m. June 1847)

Now I could do with help:

Joseph is son of,
John Perkins   &    Jane Piper(b.1803 Shelsley Beauchamp)
(b.c1796 Clifton, m.10.6.1822 @ Shelsley Beauchamp)
John is son of,
John Perkins    &   Ann Adams(b.1768 Worcs, d 1841)
(b.1761, m.c1790)

The trail goes cold here. I would be delighted to receive any help with this family line?

[charlotteCH]

Hullo and welcome to rootschat

I'm sorry I can't helpyou with any direct info that you seek but may I suggest that you check on the rootschat Surnames board to see if others are researching yur names also?
The link to the borad is at the top of this page, 4th botton from left"Surnames".

charlotte

[Jillybean19]

I too am researching the Perkins family of Worcestershire, which I have traced back to William Perkins, born 1802 in Tardebigg.  Do you know if William is another son of John and Jane's?  I would be grateful for any information you may be willing and able to provide.  Thank you.

Mary

[Jillybean19]

Sorry, the above message should have read:  Did John Perkins and Ann Adams have another son named William b. 1802 in Tardebigg?  I descend from Wm. and have extensive information on this family.  Thank you.

[Mahmayakun]

Hello Mary
The son of John and Ann Perkins(John married to Jane Pipere) had a son William, born 1837, but John Perkins and Ann Adams, as far as I can ascertain, had no son William, nor does Tardebigg feature as a placename in the Perkins history I have been researching. The family of John and Ann Perkins would appear to be:
Sarah, JOHN (our ancestor), Elizabeth,Mary, Esther, Jane and Hannah.

[Jillybean19]

Thank you for your reply.  It does appear that we are researching different Perkins families, as mine most certainly came from Tardebigge at the time period c.1800.  If however you find evidence in the future that our lines may connect, I would be most happy to work with you on it. 

[Mahmayakun]

You are very welcome. I smiled when I read your thoughts about maybe our Perkins families connecting, for almost certainly were we to wander off the direct paths of our respective hunts for our antecedents and spread our researches across a wider ambit of the legion of Perkins of the area of Worcestershire I am convinced a common denominator would appear. As this is the fourth Family History I have undertaken (my wife's paternal and maternal ascendents and those of my own father and mother) I am acutely aware of the danger of going too far off the line of direct ancestry, for histories then get clogged up with miniutiae of families  that simply have no meaning at all to our own sons and daughters and their families. Even within my own family, not everyone shares my enthusiasm in discovering the history behind the names!
With kind regards,
Bill.

[Jillybean19]

Yes, it would be quite a big coincidence that our Perkins families would both be from this area if not related. I research each of my great-grandparents family lines, but unlike the others, this Perkins line has died out except for my own siblings and children, and I am most interested in recording it so that it isn`t forgotten with time. My William Perkins (gggrandfather) was a veterinarian who travelled western Europe with the racehorses of Sir Thomas Millbanke and of Tom Lane - he lived quite a high life!  If I can be of assistance to your research, I would be most happy to do so, and also to try to discover earlier family members with you.
Mary

[Mahmayakun]

Hello again,
Since mailing you, I had a look at William Perkins of Tardebigge. I am assuming you know all this, but starting from the 1871 Census, he has quite a chequered history. In 1871, he is living as a lodger in the High Street, Bromsgrove, aged 69 and a Horse Trainer ( no wife and no family with him).
In the 1861 Census, he is a Groom at Moundsley Hall, King's Norton, aged 59 (again no family with him)
In the 1851 Census, he is living at the Strand in Bromsgrove, a Servant aged 49, with his young wife Ann, aged 27, and son William aged 2 and 1 year old daughter Anna M. Perkins (Maria perhaps? - Anna Maria was a popular girl's name in England even in the Edwards family linked to the Perkins in my wife's paternal family history)
But I can find no further trace of your William in the 1841 Census nor can I find a birth for a William Perkins at Tardebigge in or around 1802. I tried mis-spelling the name as I have found this sometimes comes up with the answer, but Parkins/Parsons/etc proved fruitless. There was a William Sarsons born in Tardebigge in 1806 but he's not your ancestor. And where did wife Ann and children William and Anna Maria(?) disappear to between 1851 and 1861? Happy hunting! No one said it was easy!
Regards,
Bill.