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A nickname question
« on: Wednesday 08 February 12 20:08 GMT (UK) »
A 1901 Matlock census record shows a young girl with the name 'Effie'. Would this have been a nickname and if so, what could have been her name?
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Re: A nickname question
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 February 12 20:17 GMT (UK) »
A friend of ours is called Effie and her birth name is Ethel. However another aunt was birth named Ethel and she was called 'tet' :) - Durham and Northumberland area.
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Re: A nickname question
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 February 12 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Sometimes a nickname can come about because a small child can't pronounce the name properly.   Having said that I think Effie is the pet name for Euphemia.

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Re: A nickname question
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 February 12 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

You do not give a surname if I have the correct "Effie", the only one in Matlock in 1901 Census,
then her Birth Registration was as Winifred Effie Dale, June Q 1900 Bakewell 7b 839.

This can be seen on http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

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Re: A nickname question
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 February 12 20:46 GMT (UK) »
"Effie is the pet name for Euphemia". I agree

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Re: A nickname question
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 February 12 21:07 GMT (UK) »
Thanks everyone.
I also have 'Yfke' from a Danish friend. Somewhat more copmpliacted than I thought but Spendlove - you do indeed have the correct Effie Dale. I haven't seen anywhere a reference to Winifred... but
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Re: A nickname question
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 February 12 11:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Sorry not allowed to give the details from the 1911 Census but on this Census she is named WINNEFRED
and is living with her Grandmother and her unmarried Aunt.

Although in the 1901 Census Samuel Dale = Ellen Botham 1896, states he was born in Matlock on previous
census birth place is given as Elton, Derbyshire, which is were the family were living in the 1871 census ref
RG10/3629 F 30 Pg 3.

You will also see on this census Hannah Dale age 10, the Aunt with whom Effie is living in 1911.

On the 1891 Census Manchester RG12/3269 F 155 Pg 48, Hannah Dale age 30 born Crich, Derbyshire is living with her Brother John aged 35 born Brassington, Derbyshire.

Hope this assists.

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Re: A nickname question
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 15 February 12 20:30 GMT (UK) »

Hi all, some girls were christened as Effie, although it is I agree commonly a shortening of Euphemia.

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Re: A nickname question
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 February 12 08:41 GMT (UK) »
Found this on a 'naming baby' site:

"Effie \e(f)-fie\ as a girl's name is pronounced EF-ee. It is of Greek origin, and the meaning of Effie is "well-spoken". Pet form of Euphemia. First used in the 1860s."

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