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Phillipps Family Broadway
« on: Tuesday 07 February 12 23:48 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for details of land ownership/ occupations of George Phillipps (wife Frances) of Laverton and then Picton House Broadway, and his son Thomas (b 1862)  Also, how / if they are linked to Sir Thomas Phillipps

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Re: Phillipps Family Broadway
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 February 12 08:43 GMT (UK) »
The 1871 census has this:

Reference RG10, Piece 2658, Folio 41, Page 4
Laverton, Buckland, Winchcomb

Phillipps, George  Head  M  43  Farmer  b Rodbourne, Wiltshire
Phillipps, F S  Wife  F  33  b Ashwick, Somerset
Phillipps, Thos W L  Son  M  9  b Laverton
Phillipps, George R  Son  M  8  b Laverton
Phillips, Frank  F  Son  M  6  b Laverton
Phillipps, Ilet O  Daughter  F  4  b Laverton
Phillips, Georginna  Daughter  F   2  b Laverton
Phillipps, Philip P  Son  M  11 months  b Laverton
Lambert, Thomas  Father-in-Law  M  83  Gentleman  b Doulting, Somerset

The family are still together in 1881 (minus father-in-law).
George is a farmer of 415 acres, employing 10 men and 3 boys.



The parents marriage:
March qtr 1861
Shepton Mallet district    vol 5c, page 853

Phillipps, George
Lambert, Frances Sutton
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Phillipps Family Broadway
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 February 12 09:05 GMT (UK) »
Who is this Sir Thomas Phillipps you are trying to connect with?

Is he the (in)famous book collector, born Manchester 1792, illegitimate son of Thomas Phillips and Hannah Walton?
Later of Thirlestaine House, Cheltenham.

The 1871 census has his place of birth as Brill, Buckinghamshire, but all the biographies have Manchester?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Phillipps Family Broadway
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 February 12 09:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the info from census. It was the land info that I didn't have, so this is helpful.
Sir Thomas Phillipps was a very eccentric book collector. I'm told he is connected to George Phillipps but I have not been able to establish how. George and his family moved to Picton House Broadway but again, I have been unable to establish when or why.
Thanks again for your help. :) :)


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Re: Phillipps Family Broadway
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 February 12 13:49 GMT (UK) »
1891 they are in High St, Broadway, Worcs

1881 they are still in Buckland, Glous. So sometime between 1881-1891 they moved and he obviously retired as he was Living on his Own Means in 1891.

I cant George in 1861.
Here he is in 1851/1841;

1851 Census
Pond Farm,
Hardington, Somerset
HO107/1932/790/33
William PHILLIPS, 71, Head, Mar, Dairyman/Grazier, born Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire
Hannah, 62, Wife, Mar, born Semington
Sarah, 24, Daug, Unm, born Rodbourn
GEORGE, 23, Son, Unm, born Rodbourn
Ann, 22, Daug, Unm, born Rodbourn
John, 18, Son, Unm, born North Bradley
Betty BUTLER, 73, Sister, Widow, Retired Farmers Widow,born Wootton Bassett
+ 2 Servants

1841 Census
Cutterage Farm?
North Bradley, Wiltshire
HO107/1188/12/North Bradley
William PHILLIPS, 60, Yeoman
Hannah, 50
Henry, 20
Elizabeth, 15
Sarah, 15
GEORGE, 14
Anne, 13
Jane, 11
John, 9
Betty BUTLER, 60
Matilda BALCH, 2

Trish :)
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Re: Phillipps Family Broadway
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 February 12 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Everyone for the census results - these have been great and have added a couple more siblings to those I had listed. Can anyone help with the Sir Thomas Phillipps connection please? I am totally mystified as to how he fits in, but several cousins assure me that they were told (by now dec'd parents) that he does!!

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Re: Phillipps Family Broadway
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 February 12 22:45 GMT (UK) »
It would seem unlikely, given that Sir Thomas was born in either Manchester or Buckinghamshire, and George came from Wiltshire?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Phillipps Family Broadway
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 March 12 23:39 GMT (UK) »
Sir Thomas describes George Phillipps (and his siblings) as 'my distant cousin(s).(in his will)  On the family tree I have, I cannot see where Sir Thomas fits in. From the reading I have done, Sir Thomas inherited (and then acquired more) land in Glouc. especially around Broadway/ Laverton etc. which is where George came from (at least in 1860's+. So I'm still trying to establish the link. :)

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Re: Phillipps Family Broadway
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 07 January 18 23:14 GMT (UK) »
Sir Thomas Phillipps Bt. (1792-1872) was my gt.gt.gt.grandfather, he was the son of Thomas Phillipps (1742-1818) who was the youngest son of William Phillipps (1700-1771) who married Mary Cotterell only daughter of Edward Cotterell of Saintbury. His father was John Phillipps (1652-1727).
The family had farmed around Broadway for several generations, however Thomas Phillipps (1742-1818) was the youngest son of three and his elder brothers, William (1737-1816) and Edward continued to farm around Campden. As Thomas was the third son, he did not take over the family farm, but went into trade, ending up as the senior partner of Phillipps, Lowe and Co.Ltd., Calico Manufacturers and Printers of Cannon Street Manchester, returning to Broadway in 1794/6, having bought the Middle Hill estate and other farms and later the manors of Laverton and Buckland.
I don't know if this thread is still alive, but please get back to me if you wish to know more.