no birth certificate, mary ann roach

[laroche]

i am trying to find the birth of my gt gt grandmother born 1855/56 in clerkenwell. i cant locate a birth certificate and cant seem to find her on 1861 census, her name is mary ann roach, and father according to marriage certificate is henry roach (butcher) i need to find proof of her birth and mothers name, any help would be most welcome thankyou.

[stanmapstone]

In the early years of registration not all births were registered, the first Statistician of the GRO  Dr. William Farr (1807–1883) estimated a 5% non-registration rate for births 1837-76, declining from  6.9% in 1841-50 to 1.8% in 1861-70.

Stan

[carol8353]

Who and when did she marry,and who were the witnesses?

Which is the first census you find her on and what is the ref?

It may be that she was born illegitimately with a different surname and that she made the name Henry Roach up as her dad for respectibility on the marriage cert.We've all got one of more of those 

Carol

[pinefamily]

Or as in my case, she may have been born under a different name, and then her mother married Hnery Roach later. My grandmother was born a Carrington, which was her mother's name. There was the dreaded blank spot on the father's name. Her mother subsequently married a Mr. Turner, whose name my grandmother adopted.
Rather than locating her, try looking for Henry Roach in the 1871 and 1861 censuses.

[MagicMirror]

You say you can't find a birth certificate.
Have you eliminated Mary Ann ROACH in Holborn district, 1st qtr 1856. Vol1b p473. 

I'm not 100% on London geography but Clerkenwell isn't far from Holborn

[silvery]

If you click on the name of the district (in freebmd) it gives you the list of places it covers.    Holborn covers Clerkenwell.

[laroche]

magic mirror, i have tried that one years ago, but maybe will have to look at it again,thabkyou.

[laroche]

stanmapstone, thankyou for the statistics info, that is always of course a posibility i wasn`t aware of thankyou.

[laroche]

pine family,thankyou for the info, i will try looking in the census for henry roach, trouble is we don`t know anything else about him,only that he is listed as a butcher in 1876 on marriage certificate of mary ann roach,
thanks again.