Gertrude Ayton, actress of some renown?

[RedMystic]

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=580299.new

Link to the Modlothian, Scotland page where I've put an inquiry. Please post anything new on that thread.

[LANRK]

According to the data I have from ScotlandsPeople, GRO, etc., Gertrude Margaret Ayton married John Robert (Jack) Copland in 1916, in Gloucester. Jack was born in Lerwick in 1889 and died in Edinburgh in 1949. He was a dentist who started the Scottish blood transfusion service, for which he received the MBE, according to the King's Birthday Honours List of  1945.

I've been looking in vain for information about and photos of Ms Ayton, and would greatly appreciate being notified if anyone finds such, particularly a photo. In the meantime I'll keep looking and will post here if I find anything.

[RedMystic]

Welcome to RootsChat lochdubh!

Thanks very much for the look-ups. There goes my theory that she was using a stage name.

Much appreciated. 

If anyone finds anythings else I'll be ecstatic.

[mshrmh]

In order to come at it from another direction, does Edinburgh have obituaries available on-line? I'm thinking that if there is an obit for her husband, it might lead me to know a bit more about her - at least if she was alive or dead at the time he passed.

It seems there may not be a lot online & you may well have to pay if you're not able to visit a relevant institution. The National Library of Scotland has a guide to publications that have an index:
http://www.nls.uk/collections/newspapers/indexes/
The Scotsman has an online archive (to 1950) that is free to search but unless you're a member of an "Athens" institution (some libraries & universities etc ) you'll have to pay to see the actual content:
http://archive.scotsman.com/

[MonicaL]

Welcome to RootsChat lochdubh from me too 

Have you viewed that 1916 marriage to be able to confirm Gertrude's father's name?

Monica

[mshrmh]

The 1916 marriage is on GloucestershireBMD as at the Register Office so the certificate would be needed for more info.
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MarriageSearch.aspx

[LANRK]

According to a copy of the register entry from GRO: On First July, 1916, at the Register Office in Gloucester:

John Robert Copland, 28, Dental practitioner of Gloucester
married
Gertrude Margaret Ayton, 24, Actress of Gloucester

Both fathers are deceased:
Robert Copland, Rubber expert (?)
William Ayton, Translator of foreign languages

[MonicaL]

Thanks lochdubh 

I put on the other new post on the Midlothiand board that RedMystic has already linked on www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,580299.0.html) a possible remarriage for a Gertrude Margaret Copland to a Nanson - this has been misindexed, likely because I think the surname is Hanson (1950, 2nd Qrt in Ealing, Middlesex - Vol. 40, pg. 556) - groom Harry T Hanson. Wondered whether this may be a remarriage.

There is also a death in May 1988 for a Gertrude Margaret Hanson, b. 18 Jul 1891 in Blackpool and Fylde, Lancashire.

Again, wondered whether this was Gertrude. Her age at death/birth year would fit with the age you have at the marriage in 1916.

Monica

Added: Just realised the age at death for this Gertrude...a long life 

[MonicaL]

Closest I can see is this for births:

Gertrude Margaret Ayton, b. 3rd Qrt 1891 in Prestwich, Lancashire (Vol. 8d, pg. 39...or 390 looks to be some confusion as there is a double entry). Census entries I am struggling with so far...

A good thing to check would be JR Copland's 1949's death cert in Edinburgh, not sure if anyone has already looked at this to see what it said about his wife.

Monica