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Re: Buffington Family of Great Marle, Thames
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 26 March 06 16:45 BST (UK) »
Its not worth looking for Fairbourne's Crests there is nothing more there to help you.

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Re: Buffington Family of Great Marle, Thames
« Reply #10 on: Friday 31 March 06 23:34 BST (UK) »
Thank You!

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Re: Buffington Family of Great Marle, Thames
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 03 June 06 23:29 BST (UK) »
The spelling of the name Buffington is unique only to America and began with Richard Buffington when he arrived in 1676. It is the spelling he used to sign the West Jersey Compact a few years later with William Penn and about 250 others. The name has underwent a number of spellings in England. Early examples were Abovton, Boveton, Bovington and so on until the name came to be spelled Buffington. If anyone is interested I can post the whole list. Richard's first cousin Thomas followed Richard to the Colonies a few years later and also spelled his name Buffington. From these two Buffingtons all others in America have descended.

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Re: Buffington Family of Great Marle, Thames
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 11 June 06 12:05 BST (UK) »
I don't think the spelling of Buffington is unique to America.

This Buffington Prerogative Court of Canterbury will predates the 1676 date you give by 19 years.

Will of Thomas Buffington, Yeoman of Heston, Middlesex 07 September 1657 PROB 11/265

There are two later dated Buffington PCC wills.

and these baptisms on the IGI taken from actual parish register entries also predate 1676

MARGARET BUFFINGTON 
Birth:  20 JAN 1664   
Christening:  05 FEB 1664   St Giles Cripplegate, London
Father:  JOHN BUFFINGTON 
Mother:  LUCEY 

SARAH BUFFINGTON 
Christening:  06 MAR 1669   St Giles Cripplegate, London
Father:  WILLIAM BUFFINGTON 
Mother:  ANN     

and earliest of all predating 1676 by 99 years

KATERYN BUFFINGTON 
Christening:  10 NOV 1577   Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey
Father:  JOHN BUFFINGTON 

JOHN BUFFINGTON 
Christening:  20 SEP 1579   Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey
Father:  JOHN BUFFINGTON 

THOMAS BUFFINGTON   
Christening:  26 MAY 1583   Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey
Father:  JOHN BUFFINGTON 

JOHN BUFFYNGETTON   
Christening:  22 MAY 1592   Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey
Father:  JOHN BUFFYNGETTON 

Is there enough information in Bovington Great Marlow wills, both those held in Buckinghamshire Record Office and PCC wills like this

Will of John Bovington, Yeoman of Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire 28 April 1652 PROB 11/221

to make the Bovington/Buffington spelling change from this source? What is the actual evidence that Richard Buffington was born a Richard Bovington circa 1655 in Great Marlow?

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Valda
 
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Re: Buffington Family of Great Marle, Thames
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 23 November 06 13:24 GMT (UK) »
I have one line I can tie to, Stapylton's. Their family crest may be in Windsor Castle but not confirmed yet. on two lines I know of I am the 36th generation American and another maybe around 46th American. I love history.

In English heraldry there is no such thing as a 'family crest' - arms are awarded to individuals. Obviously members of the same family will often use variations of the same set of arms (the crest as an element of the arms could be used by many of the family through the years). Others of the same surname but unrelated or only distantly related could be granted totally different arms. Records of the arms granted to all Stapletons etc. will be held at the College of Arms in London.

Where do you get 'in Windsor Castle' from? It may mean that a Stapleton was buried there (St George's Chapel) and the arms or crest are on a tomb; or he one was a Knight of the Garter (I guess they have records of those) - or it could be carved on some gift to a monarch etc. etc. If you want to follow it up contact the Windsor Castle Archives and hope they have it catalogued.

36th generation American - is it possible to trace back that far?  Once you get to your native American line how do you follow it?
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Re: Buffington Family of Great Marle, Thames
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 23 November 06 19:33 GMT (UK) »
I have a huge family and there are several geneologists in each line. I have 3 (including me) in my father's line and only two in my mother's, for my generation and grandfather's generation. It is possible to trace that far back if there is records or journals, the prize possession are the family bibles here in America. From history women have given birth at the time of menstruation. usually age 13-14 when they could possibly be married off. Like I said in this one line I can be 36th american. Especially if my ancestors landed in the U.S. around 1600. My father's line I can't trace past 8th generation because the ancestor with the last name of Weese came from Germany. There is no record of his father. Except for a German Hessian soldier who fought in the French and Indian war Via Canada. Who had several sons one of which has the same name as my missing link. I also got the info about  the Crest in Windor castle from a geneologist who had helped trace the line. I have 13 Knights of the Garter in my line. I am thinking It was a Father and son thing. I am not too sure about certain things because I have not seen them with my own eyes. But documents and bio's I have seen have pegged the last Knight in the U.s. due to the fact they wouldn't conform to the Rules of England. So he and his family fled here. I will get in tough with the Windsor Geneology archives soon. I find this intriguing and would love to know what these people did.

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Re: Buffington Family of Great Marle, Thames
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 23 November 06 19:51 GMT (UK) »
I have a huge family and there are several geneologists in each line. I have 3 (including me) in my father's line and only two in my mother's, for my generation and grandfather's generation. It is possible to trace that far back if there is records or journals, the prize possession are the family bibles here in America. From history women have given birth at the time of menstruation. usually age 13-14 when they could possibly be married off. Like I said in this one line I can be 36th american. Especially if my ancestors landed in the U.S. around 1600.

If the average difference between generations was 20 years and even with your very young mothers this would be very unusual.  This would cover 720 years.  This means that your first ancestor would have been born in America in 1280.  If it was fifteen which is impossible then you are still talking about 1460.  The usual estimate is thirty years which means in circa the year 900.

Someone has been using huge amounts of imagination.

David
Living in Berkshire from Northampton & Milton Keynes
DETAILS OF MY NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse, Stevens, Batchelor
Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Buffington Family of Great Marle, Thames
« Reply #16 on: Friday 24 November 06 10:37 GMT (UK) »
36 generations at 13 years per generation takes us back to 1538 (36 x 13 = 468; 2006-468 = 1538). That is before the first colony in N America.

That is assuming that every one of your ancestors was born to a 13 year old parent and then produced a child at age 13. I'm sorry I don't find that credible. Was your mother or father 13 when you were born? Are you 13 or under now?

It doesn't take many variations from the 13 year cycle to get you back another 50 years - to 1488. At that point you will be able to rewrite the history books if you can prove descent from European stock in the Americas.

For me it takes only 11 or 12 generations to get back to 1600 (there are plenty of fathers in their 30s or 40s). If I believed earlier genealogists in my line I could go back to mediaeval times, nobility etc. - but my own research has shown a very dodgy assumption or two in the earlier research.

My advice is to treat all information that is handed to you as suspect until you can check it against reliable sources. Many people (and you may well be one) are descended from Knights of the Garter etc.- but even more want to be and can be quite creative when finding that elusive link.

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Re: Buffington Family of Great Marle, Thames
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 26 November 06 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Yes it is highly unusual. the average marriage age for a women in my family line is 16-18. The only line I can lay claim to is my father's blood line, and I am only the tenth generation here. The earliest Ancestor documented were some Quakers with William Penn to scout out land for settlers. I don't doubt there were other's here before the Colonies of Plymouth Rock. I am not claiming to have everything documented. I would like to get help in debunking a few things and to obtain these documents and I am not absolutley sure I am the 36 th american generation. One family geneologist has claimed to have gone all the way up to Noah and his Family (Ark). I won't go that far! no documents to support such a thing.