Ellen O'Neil/Batt/Connolly.

[Johnconone]

Looking for any information on my Grandmother Ellen Connolly nee O'Neil/Batt, she married my Grandfather John Connolly in Cork City in 1924 ish, I think she died in 1920/30s, my father, their son came to England in 1947. The O'Neils originated from Evergreen street, same as the Connolly's.  thanks to all for your time.   John Connolly.

[Sonas]

Is this her on the 1911 census? http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Cork_No__5_Urban__part_of_/Evergreen_Street__part_of_/398482/

More questions... If not, can you provide an approx date of birth? Where does the name Batt fit in? Where did she die?

[Johnconone]

Hi Sonas,  Yes this is my Grandmother as a youth, I beleive her Mother must have married again to a Michael Batt, I know Gran married my Grandfather in 1923/4, Dad was born in 1924 and I believe they had a daughter shortly afterwards (Cathleen?) who died young, and again I beleive Gran died around the same time allthough I have no proof of this. Dad rarely spoke of his early life, I do know that my Grandfather is buried in St Joseph's Cemetery in the plot owned by Michael Batt. but sadly I know nothing of my Gran.  thank you for your interest.      John.

[Sonas]

There are matching marriage references on FamilySearch for a Nellie O'Neill and John Connolly in Cork, 1922 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYNR-F5S.

The O'Neill family on the 1901 census - http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Cork_Urban_No__5/Evergreen_Street__part_/1114444/

The mother-in-law of the head of household is Catherine Bath (Batt). On FamilySearch there are matching marriage references for a Catherine Batt and Michael O'Neill in 1882. Are you sure about your great-grandmother marrying twice? From looking at the above, I would take it that your great-grandmother's maiden name was Catherine Batt and maybe the cemetery plot in St Joseph's was bought by her father.

I only had a quick look but I don't see any great matches for your grandmother dying in the 1920s/30s on FamilySearch. Have you checked the burial records for St Joseph's to ascertain if there is a record for your grandmother? You should be able to fill in a lot of detail about the O'Neills using Family Search.

[Sonas]

The closest match for a death that I can see for Ellen Connolly is 1927 although the estimated date of birth is some years out - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FTJJ-VM8. The death of an infant named Kathleen Connolly is also registered in 1927 though so it might be worth checking these out.

[Johnconone]

Sonas,     Thank you so much,  yes I did get the 'Batt' relationship wrong, The confusion arose because I know my Grandfather, John Connolly is in the Grave owned by Michael Batt, I assumed that this was his wife Ellen's Step Father, it's now more logical that Michael Batt was Ellens Grandfather, I have emailed Cork city Archives to check out St Joseph's cemetery.   I am very gratefull to you for your speedy and much yearned for information, I can't find any links on the Connolly side of the family,  so your help has been invaluable. thank you.     regards,    John

[Sonas]

You mention that the Connollys were from Evergreen St as well but the nearest Connollys I can see on the census is a family on Friars St (unless there is a spelling problem with the name Connolly on the census??)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Cork_No__5_Urban__part_of_/Friars_Street/398651/

If you don't know if this is the right family, best way to check would be to order the 1922 marriage cert for John Connolly/Ellen O'Neill and check his father's details.

Re the Timothy Connolly and his wife Elizabeth, they say in 1911 that they've been married for 33 years. There is a marriage which might match on www.irishgenealogy.ie - http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/61bd440022128

I don't know if the O'Brien name rings any bells for you.

[loudam]

I've been to St Josephs before and they were helpful in finding out who was in what grave, we were also in the Cork Archives and they didn't have St Josephs records, and they thought that the old records  were with the caretaker still...

By the way an Aunt of mine through marriage has the surname Batt and they came from the southside of Cork City, wonder if they are related.....

[Johnconone]

Hi Loudam,  a very helpfull guy called Timmy from the Archives 'found' my Grandfather in St Joseph's, so they must have some contacts.   There doesn't appear to be many 'Batts' (pardon the pun, Endangered Species)
in Cork so it is a possibility that they were related, I'm still digging for more info.   thank you for your interest,    Regards    John.