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Offline sparrett

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Re: Am I at a dead end?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 30 January 12 23:57 GMT (UK) »
The death found by Rosball appears to be correct.

The man is buried at KEW CEMETERY

http://www.kewcemetery.com.au/ShowGrave.aspx?ServiceID=50097
with others who are not his wife ELIZA.

EDIT
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Altered link to correct one

The Obituary regarding his timber work etc lists his family of adult children

ELIZA JANE is at FAWKNER CEMETERY and her obituary also listes her children whose names appear to be very much the same as those of the WILLIAM JAMES at Kew.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0k1m/

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Re: Am I at a dead end?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 31 January 12 00:06 GMT (UK) »
Wm died at Beech Forest according to the obit in the newspaper and noted on the Vic index as B FOREST and Ancestry as Back Forest ::).

This is possibly his birth....only parents of those names

GLUE William James
Father George  Mother Christiina LEAIRD
At Kilmore  1855  Reg#5131

and could this marriage may be relevant...2nd marriage for mother or relative

GLUE Christina born Tasmania
KENNY Michael born Kings Co
1868  Reg#1291

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Re: Am I at a dead end?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 31 January 12 00:06 GMT (UK) »
There is a convict called George GLUE who came out in 1834 with his brother Joseph on the HOOGLEY
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Re: Am I at a dead end?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 31 January 12 00:19 GMT (UK) »
There are a couple of George GLUE's appearing on TROVE and there is this death SA.... was convicted of several felonies in that state.  It was probably his wife that remarried in 1868....

Death
GLUE George
26 Sep 1868  60 years
Residence  Adelaide  Died Adelaide     Ade 322/33

A news item about his death.
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Re: Am I at a dead end?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 31 January 12 00:21 GMT (UK) »
I can't find it on a Google map and my ex husband inherited all our survey maps of the area but when we were first married we used to go trail riding at a place called Black Forest (never forget it because we lived in what was called Blackforest in Macedon - so my family used to laugh that we weren't really going on holiday).

From memory it was between Healsville and Narbathong. It was a tiny camping ground when I used to go there 25 years ago but it was probably much bigger when they were logging out there.


Took a look at the newspaper article and also know where Beech Forest is (also spent many tanks of fuel there trail riding). Its in the Otway Ranges. Totally different part of the state.

Sorry to mislead you.


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Re: Am I at a dead end?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 31 January 12 00:38 GMT (UK) »
Omitted the symbol G from the death reg...sorry

G. Age Guessed by Informant/Registrar

From the obituary

When the family removed from Healesvllle Mr. Russell secured employment at Beech Forest district, where he continued to work up to the time of his death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beech_Forest,_Victoria

Australian Electoral Roll
1903 Mernda/Healesville
RUSSELL Eliza Jane Gracedale  HD
RUSSELL William James  Gracedale  Labourer

1924
Vic  Corangamite/ Beech Forest
RUSSELL William James  Crowes  Timber getter

So we are now seeking information about William James GLUE who used the surname RUSSELL.

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Re: Am I at a dead end?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 31 January 12 00:48 GMT (UK) »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beech_Forest,_Victoria
Cando

So busy modifying my post I didn't get the red warning - great minds think alike Cando  ;)
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Re: Am I at a dead end?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 31 January 12 00:53 GMT (UK) »
Whose marriage is this in NSW although with a birth reg 1855 would make Wm c17 years at marriage.

3002/1872
GLUE William
CLARK Margaret

There are no births registered to this couple and

Death
7892/1880
GLUE Margaret
District Maitland East

Possibly not Wm James RUSSELL ;D

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Re: Am I at a dead end?
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 31 January 12 01:53 GMT (UK) »
This appears to be relevant.....

george glue was born in rogate england in 1809.
he attempted to steal some sheets worth 3s, for this he was sent to australia!

he went to australia on the hooghley in 1834.
he got his certificate of freedom and his ticket of leave in 1842...... he never returned to england.

instead he married tina leaird and they had a son called william glue, born 1855 in victoria australia.
after this.... who knows where he moved to! i know that he left NSW, but does anyone know where he went to next? did he have any more children etc>


Christina's surname appears as LAIRD on the following KENNY birth regs......and one birth before marriage..possibly two.  I can't find her birth in Tasmania.

KENNY Bridget
Father Michael  Mother Christian LAIRD
At Plenty Range 1866  Reg#11713

KENNY Michael
Father Michael  Mother Christina LAIRD
At Upper Plenty  1868  Reg#20160

KENNY Patrick
Father Michael  Mother Christina LAIRD
At Kilmore  1871  Reg# 17023

It would appear that George had departed Victoria by 1859.  Have a search on TROVE.

Cando

 
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