Am I at a dead end?

[cando]

Another birth that wasn't registered.

Death
GLEM Catherine
Father George  Mother Christina LAIRD
1877  19 years  born Kilmore  Reg#2006

Cando

[judb]

PROV has digitised papers for the Administration of the estate of Michael KENNY, Splitter, of Kilmore East, died 4 Jul 1892.  Administration granted to his widow Christina KELLY of Kilmore East, June 1894

http://210.8.122.120/indexes/index_search_results.asp

Judith

[heaven]

I have followed thru and obtained some certificates -
1.  Birth - , 25 May 1855, Kilmore, Vic,   Williams James Glue. Parents George Glue age41 born in Sussex & Christina     Leaird age 17 born in Tasmania.

2.  Marriage - 9 April 1868 -  Christina Glue & Michael Kenny, Plenty Vic, Christina widowed 1864, 4 living children

3. Death -  26 Dec 1926 Northcote Vic,  Christine Kenny, parents John Laird & Janet Conway, 5 children to this marriage.

In regards to George Glue -  I have his transportation to NSW on the HOUGHLEY 25 July 1834 
Certificate of freedom 1842 states year of birth 1809, Native place Chichester,Sussex.  Trade Bricklayer. From the general remarks its possible he left a wife & two children (this is not conclusive)

I wonder if the 1868 death index for George in Adelaide is actually him,  the article about this death states he was a greengrocer! and if indeed Christina was widowed in 1864 how would we know.  The index doesn't give name of parents so I'm thinking they are not on the certificate.   I haven't been able to find any other death!
To take my research a step back I need to know who his parents were. Merlin forwarded the info of George & Christina,s marriage from a fische record,  where could I find the actual record, maybe that will give his parents. Thanks to all.
Judy

[cando]

You can purchase an image of the record and immediately download however I doubt there will be any information about parents etc on a parish record.    You must use the spelling on the index ie GLEW, or you won't get a result
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

There is no other death for a George GLUE in Aus that matches your man.  If you read the all the info posted you will see that George's age at death was 'guessed'.  I certainly wouldn't dismiss this record simply because his occupation in the news item was green grocer.  He was getting along in years and may not have been able to work as a brick layer.  South Aus death certs do not contain much more info that the indexes.   I have already mentioned this on a previous post.   Similar to the English death certificates.

if indeed Christina was widowed in 1864 how would we know

By searching the death indexes....that's how I found George's death in 1868!

Cando

[sparrett]

Merlin forwarded the info of George & Christina,s marriage from a fische record,  where could I find the actual record, maybe that will give his parents. Thanks to all.
JUDY



GLEW George m. TAYERD Christina 1854 #25724Denomination: Church of England
Parish: KILMORE
Fiche: 375  MERLIN

From the indexes and with a REGISTRATION NUMBER
You may download it to learn more.

GLEW George
To TAYERD Christina
Year 1854
Reg Number 25724
Denomination:
Church of England
Parish: Kilmore
Fiche: 375


ADDING. Sorry CANDO I see you have just made the same suggestion!

[heaven]

Thanks so much for further help,  the reason I was questioning George Glue's death in Adelaide 1868 is because of the information on the GLUE/KENNY marriage certificate dated 9 April 1868.  Here it states Christine was a widow in 1864,  so if the Adelaide death for George Glue is correct, dated  26 Sept 1868, he didn't die until nearly 5 months after his wife Christine married Michael Kenny.
Incidently the Adelaide Cemetery has now amended the burial record, dated dated Sept 1868 age 70.

Judy

[cando]

As you have found, not everyone gives accurate information.  There was a George GLUE in the in SA by 1859.  There is every possiblity that he may not have been the biological father of children registered with he named as the father after all there was a child born and registered as a KENNY in 1866 two years before Christina and Michael married.

I wonder when in 1868 this birth occurred?

KENNY Michael
Father Michael  Mother Christina LAIRD
At Upper Plenty  1868  Reg#20160

Information on death certificates only as good as the knowledge of the father.

Incidently the Adelaide Cemetery has now amended the burial record, dated dated Sept 1868 age 70.

Well at least it is better than the 3 months they had noted as his age at death previously.  They really should have the same age as on the death registration and that was 'guessed'.

Cheers
Cando

[judb]

Just thought I'd put in this MI which I found in a site with photos of graves at Kilmore, in light of the marriage there.

Sacred to the memory of
Catherine Glew
Died December 29
th
1876
Aged 18 years.

http://www.australiancemeteries.com/vic/mitchell/Kilmore%20General%20Cemetery.pdf

This is a wonderful resource with clear photos of lots of memorials.  Takes a while to download though because of the photos.

Judith