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Farrelly family
« on: Sunday 29 January 12 16:39 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to get detail on my maternal grandmother Teresa Farrelly who I found in the 1911 Census.  At that time she was a domestic servant in the Moore household of Union Place Rathmines/Rathgar. When I searched the 1901 Census for her all I could find were initials T F showing in Temple St hospital. The age seems to match and I have always been aware that she was an orphan. Was it common for orphans to be counted in the Census without a full name ? Teresa was separated from her siblings at some time unknown. I can only presume she was put into service when she was of age thus accounting for her presence in the Moore household in 1911. Teresa married my Grandad Charles Ball in 1911 who was a postman. I believe he may have met her as he was making his mail rounds in Rathmines. For years our family did not even have the correct spelling of Teresa's surname but between the Census of 1911 and Familysearch.org which shows the marriage record that part of the puzzle is solved. Curious about the initials though and if there is any way of tracing her as an orphan during that time. Thanks in advance for any help. :)   
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Re: Farrelly family
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 January 12 16:45 GMT (UK) »
It was common for people in institutions to be listed on the census return by just their initials. This system applied to some other types of buildings and occupations - e.g.police and army barracks

If you have the marriage references from the BMD Index, you can order a research cert from the GRO to check the details on that.

see : Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon
        Details included on a Marriage Cert
 


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Re: Farrelly family
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 29 January 12 17:02 GMT (UK) »
I was checking the hospital form to see if it showed a place of birth for that T.F. but the only one I can see is a male born Dublin... wondering if there might be a transcription error  - no sign that I could see of a female T.F.

here's that form - Hospital Return page 2 (see number 49)

There are a few missing sections on the 1901, and also a number of details with unusual spelling, so it's possible your Teresa is in these


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Re: Farrelly family
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 January 12 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Shane, indeed I read the hospital form wrong. There was an F above. I will continue the search  :)   
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Re: Farrelly family
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 January 12 17:58 GMT (UK) »
there's a possible clue on the 1911 census - the place of birth on the transcript is 'Co. Lought', but crossed out above that is 'Droheda'. Might narrow down possible births etc...

I had a quick search of the BMD Index for births for Teresa Farrell and variations around 1892 - but didn't see an good matches



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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 January 12 21:23 GMT (UK) »
Shane, I was looking at the hospital form again and although it shows M beside TF age 9 the original search for TF in the Census comes up with a Female age 9 for those initials at the Rotunda. Possible error in transcripton ? I found no other Teresa Farrelly's that matched in all counties for 1901 Census. Teresa had a sister named Cecelia. She is the only sibling we are aware of but I'm sure there were more. Thanks again for your leads. 
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 29 January 12 21:25 GMT (UK) »
The search works off the transcript, which seems to have gone out of step somewhere along the line. I would never have noticed except I went to check if the county of birth was listed..



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