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Offline madgarry

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Help with Irish search
« on: Saturday 28 January 12 16:29 GMT (UK) »
Guys ime stuck on this search, we are looking for a marriage between Elizabeth (betsy) Dixon born about 1841 Abbeytown Cumbria and Frederick Vonderscheff(not sure on the spelling) born about 1841 Berlin, their first child William Fredrick was born about 1873 in Dublin. Any help would be great

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Re: Help with Irish search
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 January 12 20:29 GMT (UK) »
I can see some bits on the family :

Frederick Vondercheff died 1884 Registered Birkenhead, Cheshire
Betsy Vondercheff died 1927 Registered Birkenhead, Cheshire

Mum Betsy (widow) on 1891 census with children : William, Adam, Thomas, Elizabeth & George

I can't find anything else though in Ireland or England.

Tara

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Re: Help with Irish search
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 January 12 20:52 GMT (UK) »
In the 1891 census Betsy is down as Elizabeth and born Cumberland. Son William born (c1873) Dublin but rest of children born at various places in England.

In 1901 Betsy's transcribed as Elizabeth Voandercheff born Abbeytown, Cumberland. Son William's birthplace is 'Ireland.' Adam, Thomas and George are also in the household.
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Re: Help with Irish search
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 January 12 20:54 GMT (UK) »
1881 family's in Birkenhead-
Fredredich H. O. Vondearcheff age 40 born Berlin, Prussia (occupation- painter). William is listed as Fredredich Vondearcheff born Ireland.
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 January 12 21:07 GMT (UK) »
Frederick's death registeration gives him as Frederick W Vondercheff.
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Re: Help with Irish search
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 January 12 22:30 GMT (UK) »
cheers guys, its the Ireland link ime after

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Re: Help with Irish search
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 January 12 23:02 GMT (UK) »
The only Irish link looks likely to be son William/Fredredich born c1873 Dublin(?). Civil registration of births in Ireland started in 1864 and is online (free)- www.familysearch.org.
I did search for him/the surname earlier but couldn't find anything.
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Re: Help with Irish search
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 January 12 23:21 GMT (UK) »
and the surname got no matches on RootsIreland either.

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Re: Help with Irish search
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 29 January 12 10:33 GMT (UK) »
The only things I came across as 'registered' were the deaths of Frederick and Betsy. None of the births in Ireland or England seem to be registered. Is it possible they were from different religions and this may explain the lack of paperwork ? Just a theory !

Sorry, I have just seen that you have this family well researched on the Liverpool Board !

Good Luck

Tara