Marriage lookup Please!!!

[x5girl]

Would anybody be kind enough to find a marriage for a William Thomas b c 1820 Pembroke Lampeter? and Margaret possibly Rees or Llewellyn b c 1825 in St Davids. I think Margaret was only 15 or 16 getting married and they may have married in the Eglwyscummin district of Laugharne/ Red Roses area possibly around 1840. Their first child was born in 1841 in Eglwyscummin.
Thankyou.

[Morganllan]

Hello 

You need to confirm Margaret's maiden name first. I think she had a daughter Phebe, born 1849?

Narberth volume 26 page 721 is the likely birth, but specify parent's names and William's occupation, plus Eglwyscummin.

Once you have Margaret's maiden name it will be easier to trace the correct marriage certificate.

Kind Regards
Morgan

[Morganllan]

1851 Newton Farm

William Thomas Head age 30 Born Lampeter, Pembroke  Ag Lab
Margret Thomas Wife age 25 born St David's
John Thomas Son age 10 born Eglwyscummin
Thomas Thomas Son age 8 born Eglwyscummin
Mary Thomas Dau age 5 born Eglwyscummin
Phebe Thomas Dau age 1 born Eglwyscummin

HO107 Piece 2472 Folio 420 Page 13

I assume this is your family?

[x5girl]

Hello

Thanks for your reply...

Yes that is the correct family. I have been trying to find them in the 1841 census but no luck as yet..
I was just hoping that they would show up in the Eglwys cummyn records for possibly a marriage.

I am sorry but I dont know Margarets maiden name for sure, so I do understand it is difficult to say the least..
She must have been only about 15 years of age getting married and having her first child !!
One question,would "Lampeter" , Williams birthplace be Lampeter Velfrey as we know it ??
Thankyou for your time.

[Morganllan]

Hello 

It is likely to be Lampeter Velfrey, Pembrokeshire.

Margaret may not be the Mother of the older children, so that is why it is important to buy a birth certificate to confirm her maiden name. William may have been married before.

Why do you think her maiden name was Rees or Llewellyn?   

Best wishes
Morgan

[x5girl]

Hello again 

I have been trying to get hold of a birth certificate for my great grandfather Benjamin Thomas b 02 April 1854 Laugharne. Still awaiting a reply nearly three months later from Carm registrars Office  slightly miffed to say the least....

1861 census Meidrim St Clears the family is listed @ Sarnau Farm ?
I must admit I didnt think of the possibility that Margaret may not be the mother of the other children or that William could have ben married before..

Thanks for your help, will just have to keep waiting for a reply I suppose and hopefully Benjamins Birth Certificate will confirm Margarets maiden name when I manage to get a copy....

kind regards

[Morganllan]

If you're confident about the date of birth, there is only 1 birth of a Benjamin Thomas in June quarter of 1854.

Carmarthen volume 11a page 602

It is unusual for Carmarthen register office staff not to reply for 3 months so perhaps your email went astray. You could try telephoning them (Tuesdays are usually best), or order the certificate online from GRO, specifying details such as parent's names, occupations, location,, etc:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

[x5girl]

Hello Back again 

Took your advice and ordered a copy with the GRO.
Well that has arrived and im now more confused than ever...
I think I need to start from scratch and forget the family mentioned above...

I have Benjamins date of birth as 2nd April 1854.
Place of Birth, well on several of the census returns it is St Clears, on one it is Llandwr,and another it is "The Roses" which made me think Red Roses.
The copy certificate which arrived is for a Benjamin Thomas born in Llangynnin (which I know is just outside St Clears) but different birth date.
I think the next step is to find his wedding certificate to find out his fathers name for sure.

Thank you.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Are you looking at the chap who is b Llandowror in 1871, living in Llanstephan? THis links to someone on 1861

Benjamin Thomas aged 8, b Eglwys Cummin, resident in Llanstephan
Piece 4138, Folio 62, Page 7

Jason Thomas    40  b Lampeter, pembs. Ag lab
Sophia Thomas    41 b Laugharne
Mary Thomas    10 b Eglwys Cummin
Benjamin Thomas    8
Anna Thomas    3 b Llanstephan