Kirkby of Coniston

[cynmac]

Hello List

I have a 1841 census return of John Brocklebank b 1805 Lancaster with wife Jane b 1805 in Coniston (was in Lancs then).
I cannot find a marriage but Jane may have been his second wife.
A Grandson was named John Kirkby Brocklebank and am wondering if he was named with his Grandmother's maiden name as there was a Jane Kirkby b 1805 in Coniston.
Could someone give me any ideas where to look for a marriage as I can't find one at the Church in Coniston.
Any help & suggestions woild be appreciated.  Thanks
Cmac

[Radcliff]

What is Johns occupation please,

[Radcliff]

Broughton in Furness,
St Mary Magdalene
John Brocklebank,widower of this parish,husbandsman
Jane Kirby ,spinster of this parish
13th of November 1834
witness to marriage Hartley Kirby and Edward Brocklebank

[welsh lady]

Found 2 baptisms so far
St mary Magdalane
Broughton in Furness
Father-John Brocklebank occ-Husbandman
Mother-Jane
Abode-Dryhill
Mary Brocklebank-18th jan 1834
Sarah Brocklebank-13th Sept 1835

Welsh Lady

[Radcliff]

I can not find a birth for a Hartley Kirby  but I think he is   Janes brother named John, in his baptism,he seems to have moved further up into Cumberland and himself has a son Hartley,



11th of May 1803 John son of John Kirby,St Andrew Coniston

[cynmac]

Hi List

Very many thanks to all who replied.  This is just what I was looking for.
On the 1841 census John's occupation is a Farmer so husbandman is good.
The first two girls on the census were b 1829 and 1831 so they would be to his first wife
This gives a small window for the death of his first wife and his remarriage.
Just have to find the first wife now.
I also haven't got any further back with John Brocklebank but a good lead now is an Edward as a wedding witness.
All your help has been invaluable and any other info would be gratefully received
Thanks very much
Cmcf

[Radcliff]

There are two marriages to have a closer look at

Geographicaly very close

St Marys Dalton in Furness
14th of November 1829
John Brockbank of Stenton, (Stainton) Urswick
Isabella Slater spinster of Newton
brides father William Slater
witness to marriage John Shepherd and Margaret Butler

St Mary the  Virgin and St Michael Urswick
28th of December 1829
John Brockbank,age 21,husbandman,batchelor
Margaret Clarke ,age 21,spinster of Kirby Ireleth
witness to marriage James Hunter and Mary Simpson

[Radcliff]

If I am looking at the correct 1841 census ,there is a 75 year old Sarah Brocklebank,living with them as well as 14 year old Matthew


21ST of September 1802
St Marys Dalton in Furness,
John Brockbank, son of Edward and Sarah
Abode Billincote,
father a husbandman

[cynmac]

Thank you Radcliffe
This is the correct 1841 census return.  I noticed Matthew & Sarah.  I can't find Matthew on any later census and certainly Sarah could be the Mother, she also is not on any later census. As the 1841 census does not state relationship I could not be 100% certain that she would be the Mother and don't know what relationship Matthew wold be but now I am sure Sarah is the Mother of John. Also now you have given me the correct age for John as in the 1841 census ages were rounded up to a 5.
I still need to  think about the other two marriages you gave me , but I had a hunch that
John had been married before. Still could have been one of these for a first marriage.
Thank you for your help.
Are these records online ?
Cheers
Cynmac