Rannie or Rennie

[flst]

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OPR of James Rannies death gives no details of his marital status age has been scored out and the figure 80 written along side.
 After his name what looks like the word fifty is written but its not clear either way quite an age difference from Mary.

According to the M.I.,this James Rannie, farmer in Tifty, died 7th January 1851 aged 80. He was a widower of Jean Cruickshank. So this would rule out this James as being the husband of your Mary.
flst

[GR2]

The word that looks like "fifty" is probably Tifty. This is an area with farms and crofts very close to Gourdas. The OPR burial records for Fyvie records the lairs people were buried in. It allows you to see who else is buried with a person. There is also a list of families and the graves (many unmarked) they claimed when the graveyard plan was formalised about 1837 (if my memory serves me right). I have a copy of the monumental inscriptions for Fyvie and a good number of Rennies/Rannies are mentioned.

Graham.

[renard]

Thanks guys, so the one in Fyvie is not my James Rannie, according to Scotlands people there were only two James Rannie's died in aberdeenshire between 1850 and 1857 by which time Mary was widowed, suspect she was a widow 1853 -54 have looked at all the Rannie Rennie deaths for this period  on Scotlands people and none of them fit.

Seems to be a dead end.

Jim

[flst]

Don't give up! Try contacting the staff at Dunbar Street. If Mary applied for poor relief, the application form will provide all the information you require, (& more!).
Meanwhile here's something to ponder on. In the 1851 census there are Rennies at Stonemanhill, Fyvie. The head is a William, also there is his married brother James (an agricultural labourer & aged 26). Both were born in the parish of Gamrie. Their sister Margaret also lives there & even better, their mother Elspet. Now, I think this place is actually Steinmanhill. If you check google maps & enter Gourdas the places are 0.6 miles apart. It was not uncommon for married men to live apart from their wives when they were working as agricultural workers owing to lack of suitable accomodation. Could this James be the one you're seeking? There's plenty of info to help you try & identify his parents! In December 1854 the posessions of Steinmanhill were to be let.(As per an advert in the local paper. This indicates that the family had terminated their tenancy with Fyvie Estate.What happened after that & where did they end up?
flst

[renard]

Thanks flst, I did look at that Rennie family some time ago and found the family in Gamrie, unfortunately have not been able to find them after 1851
and nothing to say one way or the other if he is my James or not going by the children that Mary had and described as a widow on their birth records it would appear that my James Rannie- Rennie died between 1851 and 1854
there is nothing that fits on Scotland's people.

So it looks like a visit to Aberdeen at some point in the future though I am not hopeful as I have had contact with someone who's tree connects with mine they hired a professional researcher who also drew a blank on James Rannie-Rennie.

Anyhow once again thanks to all for your help

[flst]

If you don't live near Aberdeen you can contact the staff & ask them to do a search of the poor relief records. Having said that I've twice been there & spent an enjoyable few hours reading  the original records.Best of all there's no charge, you just have to book an appointment beforehand!
flst

[renard]

Thanks I don't live close to Aberdeen, but still have some relatives there so visit from time to time.

[Flattybasher9]

xxx

[renard]

flst, took your advice and contacted Aberdeen Archives, almost a dead end I am afraid, her application for poor relief describes her as widow Rennie no details of her husband or when she became a widow, only details of the children and the relief she receiving

Definitely receiving relief in 1857 but notes attached which indicate she received  some casual relief  prior to this.

The last entry is for 1870 when her relief was reduced due to her being partially supported by her family.

All very interesting but no closer to finding James Rannie- Rennie his daughter
Elizabeth born 1851 and John Much Marys illegitimate son born 1853 or54
James must have died in that three to four year period, but can find nothing on Scotlands people that fits.

 Any ideas please on where I go from here, very disappointed as I thought the poor relief records might give me the information I wanted.

Jim