STIRLING- Cobh (Queenstown) Cork

[Tregonnon]

Hi Smash,

Yes I am Alastair James Tiddy - named after my uncle who was killed in Burma.

I now live in Sydney, Australia having emigrated here in 1989.

Where do you link into the Doughty/Tiddy family tree?

[Smash Adams]

I'm your niece dumbo! Your sister's child- Ashleigh!

Nice to know I'm not the lone ranger when it comes to researching our family tree I have a whole hoard of info about the Doughty's if you would like / need it!

[Tregonnon]

Mmmmm... was trying to figure it out who "Smash Adams" was, thinking that you might be based in UK - but of course - my sister's daughter!  How could I miss it?  Silly me.

Thanks for the offer of material on the Doughtys as this would be welcome especially since I have heaps of material on the Tiddy's of Cornwall.  Just use my usual email address.

[Smash Adams]

Righto! Just give me a little while to type it up and I'll send through.

[veryan]

  Glad to learn that Uncle and Niece have at last resolved their "handles"!!!!!

Sorry to have been off line for a while, have been very busy on family matters.

Regarding the question of John S. and Catherine Sophia - if we follow logic (loosely that is) and we roughly know that Catherine was bn. abt. 1824 then the possibility is that she may have married John when she was abt. 18 which puts that date at abt. 1842.   Allow a year for H.hmmm "practice" which could mean that their 1st bn. was abt. 1843/4.    It is generally acknowledged that the 1st. child is named after the Paternal Grandfather if its a boy and Maternal G/mother if a girl.   The next is usually after the parents.     Hence, Mother is Catherine Sophia and dr. is the same but nicknamed Kate (she who married into the Clemence line).   So it follows that somewhere there is a John (may have died young!).     James may be named after John Snr's. father?   If there is a John jnr. then this may account for the disparity in John snr's death and the subsequent 1881 record?

Food for thought!
Veryan

 

[Smash Adams]

Hi Veryan,

Great to hear from you again  And thanks for the info, I will see what I can find using your train of thought!

I've just had a quick scroll down and realised that I have not transcribed my latest info!

Daughter Elizabeth Hughes Stirling who married John Thorpe is listed on the 1900, 1910 & 1920 US Census!

1900 in Baltimore City, Maryland
Born- Jul 1857 Ireland
Marital- Married
(The Biggie!) Father's Birthplace- SCOTLAND!! My suspicions were correct! Hurrah!
Mother's Birthplace- Ireland
Immigration Year- 1889
Children- 7 born, 4 living

Sadly it doesn't list her husband John's occupation.

1910 in Santurce, San Juan, Puerto Rico
Born- 1858 Ireland
Marital- Widowed
Relationship to Head- Mother

She was living in the household of her eldest son Edward J. Sterling Thorpe, with her daughters Francis (born 1888 Belgium) and Lillian (born 1895 Maryland)

1920 in New York City
Head of household, living with three daughters-  Katherine born 1886 Ireland
                                                                           - Mary F born 1892 Belgium
                                                                            - Norah S born 1895 Maryland

The Stirling's of Scotland, go figure  I've always wondered whether the youngest twin daughter's Mary Simpson and Jane Cromar were given Scottish family middle-names??

[Smash Adams]

Think I may have found birth for Catherine Sophia Stirling, nee Hughes.

Cath. Hughes
Christened 27 Sep 1824, Mallow Parish, Cork
Father- John (Jn.)
Mother- Mary

Also listed, a twin?

James Hughes
Christened 27 Sep 1824, Mallow Parish, Cork
Father- John
Mother- Mary

[Smash Adams]

Found Ellen Whitney nee Stirling on the 1900 US Census as per Veryan's post a few pages back.

Living in Brooklyn New York
Born :Aug 1846 Ireland
Father's Birthplace: Scotland
Immigration year: 1873

Husband Henry's birthplace listed as Canada.
Two sons, William (16 yrs) and Joseph (17 yrs) both born in Ireland. 

[veryan]

Very many congrats Smash

Let me throw another thought or two into the melting pot - have you noticed that several of the daughters married Master Mariners? (and not a sailor or soldier bearing in mind the importance of Queenstown).   I wonder therefore, if John Snr. himself was a MM possibly before becoming a Merchant? Also, there is a record of a John S bn 30th March 1798 in Lamlash, Bute, Scotland.

My other thought is that as John appeared to be a prominent figure in Q/town his passing would more than likely have been reported in the local papers and perhaps have given his age as well.

Perhaps Catherine Sophia can be traced on passenger or "crew" lists. not forgetting several of her son-in-laws were MMs

 
veryan