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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #9 on: Monday 23 January 12 04:33 GMT (UK) »
It's D B, as in Daniel Barnwell. Don't know why so many places have it wrong. I suppose that is one reason he has been a bit difficult. His grandchildren are (*)(F) Violet (F) and Kenneth  (m). Kenneth is my grandfather




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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #10 on: Monday 23 January 12 06:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Oftentimes, names can be transcribed incorrectly due to the handwriting on the original certificates. On death certificates, the informant might not have been sure of the names and wrote them down incorrectly. You're right though - it does make it difficult.

Are you sure Clara and John didn't also have a son Claud? Or a son Claud rather than a daughter Claudia?

The death certificate clearly states male - occupation - schoolboy who died at 15 years old. Mother's maiden name Clara Cleland. Father John Peeples.
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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #11 on: Monday 23 January 12 10:21 GMT (UK) »
My own opinion would be that this was just an idiosyncracy regarding the name.  Viewing the census records "Daniel" would appear to be called Barnwell Cleland in 1850, 1900 and 1920 and D B in 1910. Goodness knows where Davis came from in 1860 but he also appears to be the same person you are looking for.
Noted that Barnwell was a City in Barnwell County, South Carolina but found no other references to that name.

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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #12 on: Monday 23 January 12 13:37 GMT (UK) »
Yes there is a Barnwell and Cleland Corners. I don't know who came first, the chicken or the egg. I'm very familiar with that area. My mother grew up there and still have many relatives. In all the years I've asked no one knows anything about him or Clara other than who they were. Someone once told me that Clara's father came from Scotland. I'm really not sure of Claude. Wonder if it could be Clyde? I really do appreciate the help, I can't thank you enough. You said the death certificate said child age 15 died? Hers? Never saw that on death certificate of someone else. I must have missed that. Will recheck


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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #13 on: Monday 23 January 12 19:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi


Are you sure Clara and John didn't also have a son Claud? Or a son Claud rather than a daughter Claudia?

The death certificate clearly states male - occupation - schoolboy who died at 15 years old. Mother's maiden name Clara Cleland. Father John Peeples.

Hi Caryn_1

Just to clarify - John and Clara had a son Claud as on the 1910 Census which was the death record you looked at but the 1930 shows the family slightly mistranscribed under "Puplus" in Pocotaligo, Hampton, South Carolina. The transcription gave a son Charles aged 8 but if you look at the image it is clearly a daughter Cxxxxxx (removed the name - still living)

John P Puplus 49  and Clara Puplus 47
Kenith Puplus 18
Charles Puplus 9  (Cxxxxx on the transcription-) - removed the name - still living.

1930 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/SPCV-TB2

1910 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M5DZ-PJ6

Death of Claude - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N9FJ-LMB

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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 24 January 12 01:58 GMT (UK) »
Yes. Kenneth then Violet and (*). Only Aunt (*)
is alive now. I don't remember if it was you or someone else talking about Daniel Barnwell Cleland possibly having a son named Claud. He did!! I found a photo of some tombstones I took several years ago at one of the family cemeteries and I have a picture of his headstone! Go figure. I had the answer to the question right here and didn't know it. Sometimes I find I have so much that I don't know what I have or where it is. Thanks for your help. Willing to take all given.  😃


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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 24 January 12 02:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Interesting - so there was a Claud AND a (*)
after all! Well there you go.... ;D

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Caryn


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Boulden (Cornwall: UK & AUS)
Page, Coxhead, King (AUS)
Glover, Gorham, Stratford (UK & AUS)
Gibson, Tandy, Allum, Savage (UK)
McAndrew (Scotland)
Klein, Deppe, Luth, Emmerich, Studt (Germany & AUS)