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Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« on: Sunday 22 January 12 01:00 GMT (UK) »
He is my g-g grandfather. Born 1839. He was in South Carolina and was in the Civil War. I can not find anything on his parents or siblings. I'm hoping someone can share information with me.  His daughter, Clara Jane Cleland (1884) married Johnnie Peeples.  I have a possibility that he was married to a Mary Smith. Sounds like an alias doesn't it? Maybe she was running from the law  ;D.
If there is anyone with the slightest info I would be very grateful

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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 January 12 02:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Is this a possibility for you?

From the 1850 US census, a Barnwell Cleland (first name Daniel not listed though) born about 1836. See attachment from the census, showing mother Mary and siblings, but no father.

The only other possibility in another 1850 census was a Daniel Cleland born around 1838, but born and living in Virgina at that time. Living in Marion County. Mother Priscilla (born around 1793)? Daniel the second youngest of 8 children.

I could be way off track, but possibles?

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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 January 12 12:44 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for showing. Do you know the township?

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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 22 January 12 13:15 GMT (UK) »
Information on Noah shows :-

Noah Cleland Born 1835 Jasper. Ridgeland. SC - Spouse: Elizabeth Ann Stanley Annie
Parents: John C Cleland, Mary Holland

1850 Census above was in  Prince Williams Parish, Beaufort, South Carolina.

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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 January 12 13:23 GMT (UK) »
1860 shows same family - St Peters Parish, Beaufort, South Carolina. Doesn't give individual places of birth - just marked South Carolina at the top of the page  ???

Mary Cleland 65
Robert J Cleland 31 Farm Labourer
Davis B Cleland 22 Farm Labourer

No image on the family search version - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MZT4-8JJ

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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 January 12 13:32 GMT (UK) »
According to Ancestral File - John C Cleland born 1794 Cleland and Mary Holland married 9 December 1819 Charleston. SC


https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/M714-TSM

Also lists 9 children including Davis Barnwell Cleland.  ???

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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 January 12 14:38 GMT (UK) »
If John Cleland was born Ireland then this could be his arrival in the USA.

Philadelphia Passenger List - John Cleland. Born 1796  Aged 22 years
Travelling Belfast. Ireland to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on a ship names Sailor Boy, arriving 10 August 1818.

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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 January 12 14:43 GMT (UK) »
The 1830 Census only gives the hed of the household, everyone else is catogarised by age group.

John Clelaud would be living in Prince Williams Parish, Beaufort, South Carolina.
 
Free White Persons -          Males - 5 to   9     -  1
Free White Persons -          Males - 10 to 14   - 2
Free White Persons -          Males - 15 to 19   - 1
Free White Persons -          Males - 40 to 49    -1
Free White Persons -          Females - 5 to 9    -2
Free White Persons -          Females - 30 to 39   -1
Free White Persons -          Under 20          - 6
Free White Persons -          20 to 49             - 2
 
Total Free White Persons: 8

Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 8

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Re: Daniel Barnwell CLELAND
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 January 12 04:27 GMT (UK) »
Ah nuts….oh well to keep looking for Daniel then.... ???

One thing seems certain, is that Daniel did marry a Mary S Smith who was born in Jasper County. Mary’s name is listed on Clara’s death certificate.

It’s confusing that on Clara’s death certificate though that her father’s name is listed as B.R Cleland, and her birth year is given as 1882 rather than 1884. See attached.

Clara and John may have had more children, but through the 1910-1930 census records, there is Claud (1904-1919), Violet and Kenith(?).

Daniel and Mary had a daughter named Sara who never married, born in 1875 and died 5 May 1939 in Grays, Jasper. And a daughter Harriet who married H.G Smither. Harriet was born 1878 and died 1 March 1943 in Columbia, Richland.

All this doesn’t answer your question about Daniel’s siblings of course… :)

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